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    What’s the big deal??

    I've been reading around the net about IE7, and I don't under stand what all the hub-bub is. Now don't get me wrong, it does seem to have a few new and cool features, but is it going to be that much better then IE6?? What is the big advantage to having tabed browsing? Is it merely a functionality thing or does it have some other advantage?

    Now before we start a MS bashing session, I have used other browsers and have found they don't suit my taste. Yes they may have some added security benefit, but hey, if you don't go to those kinds of sites then you don't have those same security problems.

    I just like to hear some opinions on the new IE7 vs. third party browsers.


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    I heard alot about it too all I know from few people is it runs even faster and its more stable in there words I never tried it myself but I don't know maybe I should test it out myself and see how good it is.

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    Tabbed browsing, Firefox has it. I don't use it...maybe I'll check it out. But secure, risk-free porn browsing - now that's a giant leap forward! Bring it!!

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    The whole tabbed browsing thing is a bit of a sore spot with me. Opera has had it for as long as I can remember. And Opera does it right. Firefox's tabbed browsing wasn't implemented correctly in my opinion. I haven't used firefox since the initial explosion of people defecting to it (I went too). I came back to IE. I like IE, what can I say?

    I guess I'm off topic here. I haven't really heard anything about IE7. I guess I'm off to find something to read

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    It's in beta right now, but there are some first looks out and about the net


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    Faster then IE6, tabbed browsing with out the incompatibilities of Firefox. I'll let you know more when I play some more. I'm using IE7 in Vista. . . .






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    IE7 - Firefox was doing well, M$ wanted to stem the tide. Nuff said.

    Is there a beta around ATM to try? I'll give it a go! I'm not a browser fanboy (though some actual competition for M$ is nice!).
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    I think it's so nasty that certain websites can ONLY BE VIEWED WITH IE!!!! That is just wrong. Like what if you turned on your TV and a message popped up on one of the major networks saying - This broadcast can only be viewed using a [insert any brand] Television, we are sorry for any inconvenience...blah blah"

    Firefox has an IE plug-in available as a workaround, but come on man.....cut me some slack here folks...

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    Yah, I can understand this from folks that do use an alternate browser, but with so many people out there still using IE, then it makes sense for site developers to ensure everything works in IE.

    You would think the industry would work together and come up with a standard for browser support instead of fighting over a percentage of the market share. I could understand this better if the software had a price.....but it's free.


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    In my basic javascripting/xhtml class at UCD, the professor was adament about us programming our projects for IE, Firefox, and Netscape compatibility. He said keep the latest versions of each installed, (at least on the network if not all on the same machine) for easy page viewing/troubleshooting on the fly. He said it's the responsible thing to do if you are going to code for the web regardless of whether you are just an average joeMan, or a fortune500. Just because he said it doesn't mean he's right, but I happen to agree with him.

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    Well guys, I am a web designer and let me tell you IE7 is a WAAAAAAAYYYYYYY OVER DUE update to the most widely used browser in the world.


    a few facts about IE6:

    -cannot render png images properly, without javascript or some use proprietary MS filters
    -CSS support is absolutely appalling
    -tons of other rendering bugs
    -non standards compliant

    what this boils down to for a guy like me?

    an assload of extra work on every project I do, after carefully, deliberately writing proper xhtml and CSS, that renders perfectly in every other browser out there...then having to go back and set up hacks, search for known fixes, and implement special provisions, just so IE renders the web page properly.

    dont even get me starte don the different versions of IE out there...the further back you go the worse it gets.

    Also if you make a web page that looks right in IE, it wont look right on every other browser, and unfortunately ever other browser renders things right for the most part, in the most elegant, straightforward, and intuitive way froma coding standpoint.

    According to the blog of the IE7 developer priorities for IE7 are this:

    #1 Better security, right through to the core and low level construct of the browser. This was what 70 percent of ther teams resourrces went to.

    #2 Better standards compliance and better CSS support, through working with organizations like wasp. This one however is going to take.

    #3 A few new features, and overal speed optimization.

    If they get proper CSS support and standards compliant functionality in IE7 you have NO IDEA the RELIEF it will bring to so many web developers out there.

    Web design with IE is like driving a taxi that can only turn to the left, basically if you want to, or your passenger (client) wants to turn right...its a big ugly mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RotorHead
    Yah, I can understand this from folks that do use an alternate browser, but with so many people out there still using IE, then it makes sense for site developers to ensure everything works in IE.

    You would think the industry would work together and come up with a standard for browser support instead of fighting over a percentage of the market share. I could understand this better if the software had a price.....but it's free.
    Software being "free", especially from M$ - has a price - it is not free without reason - and I wouldn't automatically assign an altruistic motive to them. Standards are a good thing, but they wouldn't be if M$ had a sole monopoly, as they would be setting the standards alone!

    I'd better not start M$ bashing, as I'm sure a lot of people must love them, seeing as they keep on buying their bloatware.
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