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  • First try at a BleedinEdge case mod

    Whats up guys. After i'm out of work today i'm gonna begin to start my first large planned out case mod. What i'm shootin for is to get my water cooler (which is quite large) to fit inside a case with everything else.

    Atm my water cooler is a large contraption that sits in its own wood box I made 2 feet from the case with tubing and power running between them. It works just fine in its current form but its a bloody pain to move it any where.

    I'll post up pictures a little later of what i'm modding.



    One possible problem I might have though, which i'd love any input on, is about EMF (electro magnetic field) my MAG-3 pump puts out. If the water cooler box that has the MAG-3 pump in it is sitting to close to the monitor, the monitor gets wavey lines that run across it and it hurts my eyes pretty bad to.

    So i'm a little worried that the pump's large EMF will screw with all the PC components when put inside a case or that it will always be to close to the monitor and the wavey lines will be the norm( which is not good =( )

    So possible solutions are....
    1. Some how trapping the EMF. I'm thinking perhaps some metal screen drapped around the pump and then hooked up to a ground pin on a molex connector....

    2. Or buy a DC powered pump which i'd like not to do becauses thats 40-50$ but i'll do it if theres no other way.



    So what do you guys think?

  • #2
    did you know that the OCZ power supplies use titainium to sheild from EMF?

    Also i have a koolance Exos2 with two mags in it that sits on top of my pc, and never any problems...pc wise.....CRT monitors a different story.

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    • #3
      Got another idea, i'm gonna see if wrapping the pump in allunium foil stops the EMF interferance.

      Yeah i think LCDs are more immune EMF than CRTs are. But you might be right Liquid, most pc components probably have shielding built in some how. I hope the foil or screening fixes the EMF interferance on my CRT so i can start cutting my case.

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      • #4
        KM, if I remember correctly, I think one of the water cooling companies make an EMI shield for thier pumps........I just can't remember which one..

        I'll look around a bit......

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        • #5
          Ahhhh.......Got it....

          http://sharkacomputers.com/aqcofumejafp.html

          Looks like it is designed for the Eheim series pumps.....Guess you could mod it thow.

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          • #6
            Thanks for the link RH. It might work if my pump was smaller but the Mag-3 pump is a beast of a pump. 15ft head height and 350gph, needless to say its a large pump

            I wasn't able to get time to do the EMF shield testing yesterday (screening or foil) but i did find a 2 by 4 to use as new legs for the case. I drew out the kind of setup i'm thinking about going for. So see the picture i attached. Because the radiator is so large i have to sink it into the bottom of the case and have it rest on a cut out section of the wood legs.

            One new question i have before i start cutting the case. I'm wanting to ditch the large resivior i have been using. So that means i gotta use a T-line for filling. Could any experienced T-line user give me an idea of how to incorporate it into my setup?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Killer Munkey
              So possible solutions are....
              1. Some how trapping the EMF. I'm thinking perhaps some metal screen drapped around the pump and then hooked up to a ground pin on a molex connector....
              Wrapping it in aluminum foil and connected to ground might in fact not do it. And in a sense do the opposite.

              Wrapping it in chicken wire fencing ensuring that fencing does not touch the pump and connected to ground will more then likely do it.

              It is called a Faraday Cage other form of it is also knowned as TEMPEST shielding primarely used in the Army originally, google around you should find tips and hints on how to build the most appropriate one for you.

              I used to improvise them when on Satellite stations sites and I was getting interference from the outside world. In my case it was a temp solutions until our engineers built one that looked better and more professional but in short same effects and better looks which we could sell for thousands of dollars to our customers.

              Ground: Avoid the Molex ground and use the electical ground from the wall outlet _ Take OHM meter and connet to the ground of the electical outlet and touch PC Casing while PC is powered up - make sure you have solid contact and read Ohm - should read less the 1 Ohm, anything above is consider bad connection or floating ground.
              Last edited by BB_One; 07-18-2006, 08:30 AM.

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              • #8
                Isn't a t-line just a mini reservoir? If so then I believe T-line needs to be in the highest spot so air can bubble out (similar to a reservoir). based on this it should go between the highest water block and the pump. Might get better results if the tubing from the block arcs upwards to the T-line then downwards to the pump. Better chance to get the bubble out.

                Best to have the water guys confim this before delving into it.




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                • #9
                  We want pics! We want pics!

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                  • #10
                    pics will be up tonight at one point. It'll only be of what i'm modding on my supplies

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                    • #11
                      No matter....progress is progress.....

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                      • #12
                        Project finally started yesterday. Only made it halfway through the first cut before i had to go see my g/f . I have pics taken of the progress so far but don't have the software to upload them from the camera to the comp. so i'll post all the pics when i'm through

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Snafu
                          Isn't a t-line just a mini reservoir? If so then I believe T-line needs to be in the highest spot so air can bubble out (similar to a reservoir). based on this it should go between the highest water block and the pump. Might get better results if the tubing from the block arcs upwards to the T-line then downwards to the pump. Better chance to get the bubble out.

                          Best to have the water guys confim this before delving into it.
                          the T-Line does act as a small reserviour and bleeding point to get the air out I use to have my t-Line directly infront of the pump intake and it never used to cause any trouble you do not necessarily need it at the top of the system as there should not be any air in the blocks this should be purged through by the water and the air should expell into the t-line

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                          • #14
                            Still no luck with pics. The discs for the camera are down at my aptment in southern illinois and i'm up in chicago. But i am still taking pictures of the progress. Atm, i got the case bottom cut out and the woodbox for the radiator made and screwed on to the case.

                            Next part of the project would be mounting the pump to the case and setting up the w/c blocks so i can start a leak test. I am starting to like how it'll turn out. I'm gonna be using at least half the amount of tubing that i used in my old setup. Perhaps i could get by with a smaller pump then.

                            Soooo do you guys recommend a t-line right after the the pumps outflow ?

                            Another question, should i get a smaller , easier to mount pump, cuz the MAG-3 is 3''x3''x4'' on a conservite guess. Could anybody recommend a good DC pump?

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                            • #15
                              The w/c is assembled and testing will begin shortly. If the testing goes well i'll then have my rig up and running and be able to post all the pics i've been taking of the work.

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