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ThugsRook
08-10-2003, 11:34 AM
how fast do you have to run your memory in order to match my bandwidth scores at only 400ddr?


Test System
P4 2.4B @ 3.6ghz 200fsb
Kingston HyperX3000 2x 512mb 6ns pc2700
Abit IC7 (canterwood)
NBs800 | GAT Street Racer | c2622 | 1:1 | 2.8v vdimm


Bandwidth

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-m86.gif Memtest86 v3.02998 mb/s


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-a32.gif Aida32 v3.705545 / 2422 mb/s


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-pcm2k2.gif PCMark200210641


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-sss.gif SciSoft Sandra v7973, unbuffered3545 / 3348 mb/s


:wave: -thugsrook

ThugsRook
08-10-2003, 11:39 AM
Hawk's system (results used with permission)
P4C800-D | OCZ 4000 2x 512MB @ 2.85v

Aida32
260FSB : DDR520 2.5-3-4-5-8 = 5508 / 1917 MB/s
270FSB : DDR540 3.0-4-4-7-8 = 5613 / 2085 MB/s
275FSB : DDR550 3.0-4-4-8-8 = 5752 / 2152 MB/s

i cant beat your write score :cry:

Jim
08-10-2003, 11:45 AM
Heheh, this should be good. Let me run some tests later today and I'll put up some numbers.
Maybe we'll see..... well to put it in car terms, where cubic inches/liters (ie Big Block) overcomes the high performance small block engine. (Assuming it can of course) :wave:

EDIT

OK: ran some tests.

System Stats

P4 2.4C @ 3.3mhz/ Swiftech MCX4000
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
2X512 Corsair 3200XMS LL @ 2-3-3-6/5-4 ratio
Western Digital 36gb Sata Raptor on Sata1
Enermax 435 watt PS
XP PRO SP1
PNY GeFORCE FX5900 Ultra

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-m86.gif Memtest86 v3.02746 mb/s


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-a32.gif Aida32 v3.705773 / 2106 mb/s


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-pcm2k2.gif PCMark200210975


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-sss.gif SciSoft Sandra v7973, unbuffered2915 / 2979 mb/s[/c]

Everything here is straight forward except the Aida scores I ran maybe 10 times and posted the best scores. Read went from 5600-5773 and write went from 1884-2106.

I'll post up some 1:1 DDR 400 scores later. :)

EDIT AGAIN

1:1 DDR400 Scores

Note: Can't post my 1:1 scores here, (too many images), will post at end of thread.

ThugsRook
08-10-2003, 11:47 AM
exactly what i was thinking PF!
...small block RPMs vs big block torque :rock:

im looking forward to everyones results :-)

eva2000
08-10-2003, 11:51 AM
don't forgot you're running 2 x 512mb double sided dimms which will be faster than single sided as well as with all those GAT settings

ThugsRook
08-10-2003, 11:58 AM
hehe~ i forget nothing ;)

eva ~ thats the point of this thread :chit:

eva2000
08-10-2003, 12:04 PM
what i could manage with 4x 256MB ADATA PC4000 at 255mhz 3-4-4-8 at 2.8v 1:1 on IC7 with GAT AUTO

Aida Read (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/abit/ic7/memory/adata/pc4000/4x256/255-255-3448-auto/aida-read.jpg) = 5563
Aida Write (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/abit/ic7/memory/adata/pc4000/4x256/255-255-3448-auto/aida-write.jpg) = 2085
Buffered (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/abit/ic7/memory/adata/pc4000/4x256/255-255-3448-auto/mem-buff.jpg) = 5926/5833
Unbuffered (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/abit/ic7/memory/adata/pc4000/4x256/255-255-3448-auto/mem-unbuff.jpg) = 3189/3262
Sciencemark (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/abit/ic7/memory/adata/pc4000/4x256/255-255-3448-auto/sciencemark.jpg) = 4976.40

Mikki
08-10-2003, 12:57 PM
Very nice thread Thugs, and a good way to get everyone involved...;) I'm very interested in this, and I love the engine analogy...;)

Hawk
08-10-2003, 12:59 PM
Test System
P4 3.2C @ 235fsb
OCZ 3700 (2 * 256MB) Gold @ 2-3-3-6
ASUS P4C800-ED (canterwood)
1:1 | 2.85v vdimm

Note: I cannot get the OC4000's to meet the 2998 MB/s in Memtest86 w/ the 3.2C YET! ! ! Give me a few days.

Also, remember the 4000's scores quoted above, those are on the 2.4C & P4C800-Deluxe

Bandwidth

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-m86.gif Memtest86 v3.02997 mb/s


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-a32.gif Aida32 v3.705712 / 1930 mb/s


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-pcm2k2.gif PCMark200211345


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-sss.gif SciSoft Sandra v7973, unbuffered3351 / 3313 mb/s


:wave: -Hawk

ThugsRook
08-10-2003, 01:28 PM
great results so far guys! thx for the posts :-)

if anyone would care to try to match me @ 200fsb 1:1 400ddr, that would be interesting too.

:wave:

Jim
08-10-2003, 09:20 PM
OK, 1:1 DDR 400 scores.
Cas 2-2-2-5

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-m86.gif Memtest86 v3.03024 mb/s


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-a32.gif Aida32 v3.705087 / 2355 mb/s


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-pcm2k2.gif PCMark20029691


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-sss.gif SciSoft Sandra v7973, unbuffered3047 / 3142 mb/s[/c]

Again, everything straight forward, ran the Aida's (because they're so easy) 10 times. Posted the best scores. Read: 4994-5087. Write: 2200-2355


NOW , level playing field says I can O'clock my 1:1 DDR as far as it will go and post those scores. ;)
1:1 O'clock to follow. :wave:

ThugsRook
08-10-2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by ProfessorFate
NOW, level playing field says I can O'clock my 1:1 DDR as far as it will go and post those scores. ;)
1:1 O'clock to follow. :wave:

be my guest :-)
the more results the merrier :rock:

Jim
08-10-2003, 11:50 PM
3 more benchies, I'll post them as text in the interest of keeping the results a bit more brief. ;)

Memtest

215FSB 1:1 2-2-2-5 = 2967
225FSB 1:1 2-3-3-6 = 2850
228FSB 1:1 2-3-3-6 = 2888



Aida Read/Write

215FSB 1:1 2-2-2-5 = 4994/2015
225FSB 1:1 2-3-3-6 = 5193/2069
228FSB 1:1 2-3-3-6 = 5276/2049


PCMARK2002

215FSB 1:1 2-2-2-5 = 9636
225FSB 1:1 2-3-3-6 = 9987
228FSB 1:1 2-3-3-6 = 9942

Sandra

215FSB 1:1 2-2-2-5 = 3121/3182
225FSB 1:1 2-3-3-6 = 2979/3064
228FSB 1:1 2-3-3-6 = 3023/3106

I think I'll take my ball and go home now. :D :wave:

eva2000
08-11-2003, 06:47 AM
Okay let's see

2.4C Costa Rica week 20
4PCA3+ rev 1.1

Intel Fast = Enabled
CPC = AUTO

2x 512MB XMS3500C2 @245mhz 2-3-2-7 at 3.3v

1:1 ratio

Memtest86 = 3204 MB/s
Aida Read = 5653 (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/245-245-2327-ifon-cpcauto/aida-read.jpg)
Aida Write = 2022 (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/245-245-2327-ifon-cpcauto/aida-write.jpg)
Pcmark2002 Memory = 10,470 (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/245-245-2327-ifon-cpcauto/pcmark2002.jpg)
Sandra Unbuffered = 3356/3427 (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/245-245-2327-ifon-cpcauto/mem-unbuff.jpg)
Sciencemark 2.0 = 5001.01 (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/245-245-2327-ifon-cpcauto/sciencemark.jpg)

Tony
08-11-2003, 12:51 PM
First off I don't have any winbond bh5 512 modules so i was at a little disadvantage.So running the 3700Gold at 250fsb i thought i would have a crack at beating Thug's score.This is an EASY clock and with luck i will see more.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ad.leach/thugs/test1.JPGhttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/ad.leach/thugs/test2.JPG

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ad.leach/thugs/test3.JPG
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ad.leach/thugs/test4.JPG

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ad.leach/thugs/test5.JPG

Memtest86 score:3098MB/s

ThugsRook
08-11-2003, 02:51 PM
:rock: i knew Tony would be bringin out the big guns for this thread ;)

awesome results! :beer:

dbwillis
08-12-2003, 09:27 PM
Ah, you made me try my 2.66B in the 875 board...its a Malay chip....but failed Prime95 at 150fsb, 1.65v...oh well


Back to the 2.6c but without the IHS...was going to lap it , but said what the heck..:(

ThugsRook
08-12-2003, 09:43 PM
hows she running w/o the IHS?

any difference in temps? OCability?

i still havent removed mine :rolleyes:

dbwillis
08-12-2003, 09:55 PM
Well I know the condos the same temp...2xPrime after 15 min and its at 43....and steady...1'c drop...but the AS is still wet...should go down maybe once it settles?

Eskimo
08-12-2003, 10:04 PM
I'm coming for ya Thugs... just ordered my stuff from Newegg... :wave:

ThugsRook
08-12-2003, 11:42 PM
awesome! :rock:

Tony
08-13-2003, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by ThugsRook
:rock: i knew Tony would be bringin out the big guns for this thread ;)

awesome results! :beer:

at 200fsb you have a 67fsb overclock. I will try to do the same with my 2.6C and show the difference running 1:1.

Hawk
08-13-2003, 06:36 AM
You guys are in trouble once I get this Vapochill running. . . . :eek: ;) ;) ;)

eva2000
08-13-2003, 06:36 AM
Most agressive 1:1 I can get with 4PCA3+ and 2x 512MB XMS3500C2

@240mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.3v with Intel Fast and CPC disabled
http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2225-ifoff-cpc-off/mem-unbuff.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2225-ifoff-cpc-off/ut2003_1.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2225-ifoff-cpc-off/aida-read.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2225-ifoff-cpc-off/aida-write.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2225-ifoff-cpc-off/pcmark2002.jpg

========

@240mhz 2-2-2-6 at 3.2v with Intel Fast Enabled and CPC AUTO
http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2226-ifon-cpcauto/mem-unbuff.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2226-ifon-cpcauto/ut2003_0.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2226-ifon-cpcauto/aida-read.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2226-ifon-cpcauto/aida-write.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/corsair/xms3500c2/2x512/240-240-2226-ifon-cpcauto/pcmark2002.jpg

ThugsRook
08-13-2003, 02:10 PM
this is turning into an awesome thread! :chit:

altho im sure most of this info is over most ppls heads ~ im learning alot about how memory works (and lack there of) above 200fsb.

thx again guys, and keepem comin! :wave:

Technonut
08-14-2003, 10:07 AM
My lowly 2 x 512MB Kingston ValueRAM (PC2700 BH-6 / PC3200 BH-5) In the IC7-G @ 1:1 / 450MHz / Street Racer (2-3-2-5):

Memtest86: 3082 MB/s

AIDA32 Read: 5847 MB/s

AIDA32 Write: 2584 MB/s

PCMark2002: 11440

Sandra: 5522/5512

Not bad for ValueRAM... ;)

ThugsRook
08-14-2003, 10:09 AM
holy chit! :eek2:

now thats overclocking!

congrats! you are the 1st to person to beat me in every test!
and on 6ns KVR pc2700/3200 to boot! :rock:

can you do the sandra in unbuffered mode?

Technonut
08-14-2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by ThugsRook
holy chit! :eek2:

now thats overclocking!

congrats! you are the 1st to person to beat me in every test!
and on 6ns KVR pc2700/3200 to boot! :rock:

can you do the sandra in unbuffered mode?

Thanks, but you still got me in 1 unbuffered Sandra score:

Unbuffered: 3443/3431 This is with some background apps running... I will do the test later with everything shut down... Still not bad for ValueRAM though.. :) I may even be able to go further. I just pulled my TwinMOS out and replaced it with the KVR at the same timings to Memtest it.

EDIT: BTW: Nice Forum you guys have here... :beer:

ThugsRook
08-14-2003, 10:44 AM
ah, i knew id get ya somewhere ;)

still, d@mn good for that "mixed" kingston value ram :rock:

to me thats more impressive then $400+ OCZ running 550+ddr and still not beating us ;)

nice OC :beer:

ThugsRook
08-14-2003, 10:46 AM
:wave: welcome to BE.com Technonut ~ its great to have you here :wave:

Radelon
08-14-2003, 01:56 PM
Here you go, catch me if you can!!!

CPU-Z
http://radelon.home.mchsi.com/ocz4000/284GIFS/284cpuz.gif

Sandra Unbuffered
http://radelon.home.mchsi.com/ocz4000/284GIFS/284unbuff.gif

Sandra Buffered
http://radelon.home.mchsi.com/ocz4000/284GIFS/284buff.gif

Aida Write
http://radelon.home.mchsi.com/ocz4000/284GIFS/284aw.gif

Aida Read
http://radelon.home.mchsi.com/ocz4000/284GIFS/284ar.gif

My PCMark2002 Mem score is 12,190 marks, but I misplaced the image and don't have the time to link up the project.

Good luck to all takers..... you'll need it

Mikki
08-14-2003, 02:01 PM
:eek: :eyepop: :chit: :!: :look: :rock: :beer:

shimmishim
08-14-2003, 02:05 PM
umm...

WOW...

what ram is that???

and where is fairbury illinois?

ThugsRook
08-14-2003, 02:06 PM
awesome! :rock:

i should insult/challenge you guys more often ;)

Tony
08-14-2003, 02:12 PM
Thugs

Radelon has an Outpost 2.4C special..;)

I have 3 on the way that all do 290+fsb at default vcore.

eva2000
08-14-2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Tony
Thugs

Radelon has an Outpost 2.4C special..;)

I have 3 on the way that all do 290+fsb at default vcore. holy holy moses :) I need 2 that can do that .. all 3 of my 2.4C costas don't bench higher than 270-275mhz and that's at 1.60-1.75v :(

shimmishim
08-14-2003, 02:29 PM
dang it!!!

i refuse to buy another 2.4C!!!

hehehe...

but man 290+ at default!!! sheesh...

it's not worth it... must ... resist.... don't.. visit... outpost... AHH...

Radelon
08-18-2003, 10:56 AM
It's OCZ PC4000 2x512mb sticks. And yes, u've all just been PWND.....hehe.

I was busy all weekend, but I'm back now and ready to kick some tail.

eva2000
08-18-2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Radelon
It's OCZ PC4000 2x512mb sticks. And yes, u've all just been PWND.....hehe.

I was busy all weekend, but I'm back now and ready to kick some tail. just you wait :D

http://www.fileshosts.com/memory/ocz/pc4000gold/1/pc4000gold_00_thumb.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/memory/ocz/pc4000gold/1/pc4000gold_00.html)

+

new 550W Antec Truecontrol PSU

hopefully better rails will give more higher stable FSB :)

eva2000
08-20-2003, 09:49 AM
2x 512MB Hynix PC3200 @270mhz 2.5-4-4-8 1:1
on 4PCA3+ at 3.3v
Intel Fast disabled = PAT disabled
CPC disabled

Memtest86 = 3098 MB/s

Sandra Buffered (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/hynix/pc3200/2x512/270-270-2.5448-ifoff-cpcoff/mem-buff.jpg) = 6307/6232
Sandra Unbuffered (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/hynix/pc3200/2x512/270-270-2.5448-ifoff-cpcoff/mem-unbuff.jpg) = 3427/3493

Aida32 Read (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/hynix/pc3200/2x512/270-270-2.5448-ifoff-cpcoff/aida-read.jpg) = 5899
Aida32 Write (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/hynix/pc3200/2x512/270-270-2.5448-ifoff-cpcoff/aida-write.jpg) = 2210

PcMark2002 (http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/epox/benchmarks/2.4C_3/hynix/pc3200/2x512/270-270-2.5448-ifoff-cpcoff/pcmark2002.jpg) = 8139 / 11103 / 1085

ThugsRook
08-20-2003, 09:52 AM
...at 3.3v
:eek2:

eva2000
08-20-2003, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by ThugsRook
:eek2: yeah i expect these hynix pc3200 will probably do only 245-255mhz dual channel at 2.8-2.9v but what a find for pc3200 memory :)

Radelon
08-21-2003, 02:11 PM
I broke 4k unbuffered, NOW CATCH ME......if you can:

CPU-Z
http://radelon.home.mchsi.com/el4000/292cpuz.gif

Sandra Unbuffered
http://radelon.home.mchsi.com/el4000/292unbuff.gif

Sandra Buffered
http://radelon.home.mchsi.com/el4000/292buff.gif

PCMark2002: 12,591 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm=1462888)

ThugsRook
08-21-2003, 03:15 PM
what mem is that?
how much vdimm was used?

eva2000
08-21-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by ThugsRook
what mem is that?
how much vdimm was used? that was OCZ PC4000 Gold at 2.85v

Radelon
08-21-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by eva2000
that was OCZ PC4000 Gold at 2.85v

Correction OCZ PC4000 EL (not gold) at 2.85v

ThugsRook
08-21-2003, 03:53 PM
how much do they cost for the pair?
any further info on this ram?

3448 is EL? :wack:

Tony
08-21-2003, 05:17 PM
Cas3 actually works better than cas2.5.. weird i know, but when your pushing near ddr600 i doubt cas2.5 will even run.