PowerStream 600w - in stock

[Snafu]

I know a few folks were looking for these so thought I would let you know that I received a notice from www.FrozenCPU.com that they just received 18 of these beauties in stock as of 2pm (just over 4 hours ago). I just checked the sit and the stock is down to 16.

Here's the link (http://www.frozencpu.com/psu-116.html?id=4hqofBK8) to this PSU at the site.

Hope all that are looking for one can get one ordered.

[Paragon]

Isn't the MSRP just over or around $200? I hate the thought of being gouged like that because of the product's scarcity!

[glorfy]

Isn't the MSRP just over or around $200? I hate the thought of being gouged like that because of the product's scarcity!

The only place in the UK that 'claimed' to have one (they did not) wanted £160 for one...urrrr $320? I would love to be able to get one for $200, or better yet the new sli psu!

[JeffP]

I have one arriving today. I ordered it from excaliberpc.com for $195.

[Snafu]

Isn't the MSRP just over or around $200? I hate the thought of being gouged like that because of the product's scarcity!
You are right!!! I never thought to look at the price when I got the in-stock notice ($249USD :yikes: ). It is surprising for them 'cause they usually match NewEgg and occasionally beat them too. I guess each site has thier own good days and bad days.

They are throwing in free sleeving and possibly heat shrink with your choice of color. Doubt its worth $50 though. Sleeving and new shrinks should not cost $50 and it should be an option for folks who want to save some cash.

I've sent them (mark [at] FrozenCPU [dot] com) the question why there is a 25% mark-up. I'll post what I hear back from them. It will also help if folks fire off e-mails to FrozenCPU.com questionning thier pricing policy. That's about the only way to put pressure on them to drop the price to something a little more reasonable - let's put the power of BE members to work ;) .

[Snafu]

This is the reply I received from FrozenCPU. This is edited for hopefully obvious reasons.


Sorry to stun you. MSRP is 249 from OCZ. We don't whore products out like XXXXXX does however I appreciate the email

So it looks like either MSRP has gone up or vendors were selling well under the MSRP.

[Paragon]

Might want to pose that question to Tony, Andy, or Steve to confirm what you're hearing is correct.

[Snafu]

Good idea :thumb: . Contact made and post should come soon.

[SteveOCZ]

I just double checked and we STILL MSRP the 600W at $199 so the must be price jacking because it's a "hot" item

I'll see what I can do

[Snafu]

Thanks Steve. I'm going back to the "prez" of FrozenCPU and tell them to get thier facts straight and that I will no longer recommend FrozenCPU if they continue to follow this pricing practice.

Cheers

BTW the address is Mark[at]frozencpu[dot]com. It would be great if everyone who dislikes sites who practice price gouging to get on-line and write a message to "Mark" and tell him what you think of thier pricing policy.

[83racecrew]

:thumbs: Great work Snafu....I think a new title is in order..."Defending the BE community and the world from Price Whores"....hmmm that sounded better when it was in my head than it does in print :scratch: oh well :lol:

[Paragon]

Here's the same 600 watter OCZ PSU at Newegg for $210.00 Snafu Nader :chit:

Link (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-153&depa=0)

[Paragon]

That would be a great idea for a seperate forum here at BE, we could have our own reseller ratings for those that take advantage of their customers by price gouging...Mr Snau Nader could be our spokesperson:yikes:

[glorfy]

I think your powers for good are sorely needed here (http://www.chillblast.com/customer/product.php?productid=16670) , snafu nader!

[83racecrew]

:lol: :lol: :lol: @ Snafu Nader

:yup: I do support the idea of the ratings forum though Paragon :thumb:

[SteveOCZ]

UK prices are higher for everyone, but we're hoping to setup shop in the EU soon to save some VAT costs on importing :)

[glorfy]

UK prices are higher for everyone, but we're hoping to setup shop in the EU soon to save some VAT costs on importing :)
Yah, but there's another site listing it for £42 less! link (http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle_url?q=http://www.casetech.co.uk/product_info.php/products_id/1671&fr=AFGPEXDC_i2Mibb9pSaZ5bF_-sQP2-Cw6jCTP7GP53QFrfG4faFnz5gAAAAAAAAAAA)

[Paragon]

Snafu you will never out-post me :na:

Steve you don't know what you're taking on here Snafu is a machine :hide:

[LostInSpace278]

I like the idea of having our own little rating system. The first one I would like someone to rate is an electronic component store. (For resistors, pots, wire, and tools)
Please not Radio Shack either. They seem to gouge as well.

[SteveOCZ]

Steve you don't know what you're taking on here Snafu is a machine :hide:


LOL but I get paid to post :bonk:

[Snafu]

Please help join the fight and donate to the Snafu-Postwhores-Club ;) . With each donation I will send a pic of the postwhore you have helped.

[83racecrew]

:lol: :lol: :rotflmao:

[Snafu]

:thumbs: Great work Snafu....I think a new title is in order..."Defending the BE community and the world from Price Whores"....hmmm that sounded better when it was in my head than it does in print :scratch: oh well :lol:
:lol: I love it. Maybe I can change my avatar to a pic of Ralph and modify the sub-title. What do you think? It's time for a change anyways. Anyone have a pic of Ralph???

Hmmm. Maybe I could get paid for this so I can have an excuse for posting?

;)

[Snafu]

Well I contacted the "Prez" Mark at FrozenCPU stating:


Thank you for replying so quickly but I looked into the pricing and the MSRP is $199. Sorry to tell you this but I will no longer recommend FrozenCPU if your pricing practices continue like this - 25% mark-up - that is a bit steep. I know the units are not in grand supply but 25% is too much.

Now I wonder who is whoring this product?
Now remember it was their term that NewEgg were whoring products and thought it was a nice touch in reply.

In response do you believe that they were remiss? Apologetic for attempting to gouge those in desparate need of a 600w PSU? Well not exactly. The "Prez" was kind enough to replay as follows:


We will continue to sell our products with the standard margin.

We sell a lot of products and a lot of those power supplies at the price point we have them at. I am sorry you will not be coming back.
I think I can just make out a "screw you and all our customers". At least they put it very tactfully.

Sorry Mark. You not only lost me but you have also lost any redirect and any mentions for folks looking for parts.

Paragon - thanks for the link to NewEgg. I am sending this back to Mark so they can reconsider thier "standard margin". I have replied with:


I am sorry to hear that 25% over MSRP is your standard margin. As I am sure you follow your competitors very closely due to the miniscule margins involved, I thought you might like to know that NewEgg lists this PSU at $210 - 10% over MSRP. What whores.

Here is the link: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-153&depa=0

[Snafu]

Well as of 11am this morning there is no reply from "Mark". Just checked the site and the PSU is still listed at $249.99. Now we recognise that some overpricing is possible and even reasonable if a product is in high demand and supply is low. Unfortunately what is reasonable is a personal matter. To me 10% is adequate whereas 25% is extreme and IMO is gouging. NewEgg listing this PSU at $210 is reasonable but still a bit high - maybe once supply and demand stabilises then the price will be closer to MSRP or lower.

If you are tired of being gouged there are some steps you can do. Even if you are not being gouged you can help to prevent others from being gouged. Who knows, you may find that this helps you sometime in the future.

What will make a site change its price is people. A lot of people. However, all it will take is simply some e-mails, some posts and word of mouth.

Send an e-mail to the site telling them why you think they are gouging. Let them know you will not buy from them but will buy from a competitor at a lower price. Occassionally it is a misprint on the site. Give them a chance to respond and make corrections.

Post your find here and at all other forums. Quote messages sent and received if you wish. Not only does this spread the word quickly you may also find others who read your post will also start sending e-mails to the site. They in turn will also post in their favorite forums to warn others spreading the word further.

Tell your friends when a site is gouging and recommend they avoid the site until they change thier pricing strategy. Heck if you really want to hurt the site then tell all to avoid the site completely unless they have a great sale on something. Even then you can probably ask another site to match the price - usually they do to keep your business.

In the end what happens is that the site will receive a large number of complaints and they start to loose sales to other more reputable sites.

Remember, in retail it is hard to retain customers and all too easy to loose them even on one small bad experience. However, the hardest is trying to get your lost customers to return.

If you want change then all it takes is a quick e-mail and spread the news in other forums.

:thumbs:

Let's hear from you and let's make some changes!

[Snafu]

Well Happy New Year. I received a reply from Mark this evening just after six. It is a simple reply:


We just sell higher than NewEgg for this item. I wish you well my friend
At least it is cordial. Interestingly the term "whoring products" is not mentioned :scratch: .

It was quite interesting to see that the 520w PowerStream is listed at this site for $149.99. A full $100 less than they are offering the 600w version. Just a wee bit of a jump in price.

In the end I would advise that you do check with other sites before laying down your cash. Even if you trust the site. I also ask that each of you write to Mark. Just tell him that you know his site is gouging on this fine product and you will not recommend the site to anyone until they change.

Cheers mates.

[Snafu]

Warning - Older Thread Resurrection :rolleyes:

Over 6 months later and FrozenCPU still lists the OCZ 600W Powerstream at $249.99USD.

What is really funny is that I can buy this same PSU up here in Canuckistan for the same or lower price in Canadian dollars - for those not on top off the current currency exchange rates this equates to an instant 20% discount!!!

It pays to shop around so you aren't gouged in the pocket - unless you have money to throw away (you can throw it this way :D).

FYI - NewEgg has it listed at $195USD after a $20 mail-in rebate - even without the rebate this is still cheaper.

Cheers :beer:

[RotorHead]

Snafu, What retailers and do they ship to the US or international??

[Snafu]

Good question. I never really looked. I am sure some of the smaller stores would if shipping/insurance is paid but then this would add to the price.

My comment about 20% off is in relation to FrozenCPU's exaggerated price not NewEggs. Folks in the US would probably be better with NewEgg's $215 (minus the $20 rebate) and they have a courier saver coupon too.

I am not sure if any supply to the US. I went to www.pricenetworks.ca and did a search for "powerstream 600". Of the 8 stores listed all came back with prices even under NewEgg's price. The most expensive was $256CAD which is ~ $205USD ($1USD = 0.8CAD). Could be due to currency fluctuations with our loonie doing better recently.

I have dealt with only 2 of these sites. One I can vouch for as a good but small retailer. The other is far larger but with my last dealings with them they were a bit shady - site claims to have inventory but in fact it could be inventory that is intransit to their warehouse.

Maybe for the few dollars folks might save it would be easier to order from a local store (lower shipping costs and easier to rma) or a fairly large company with a really good policy. Also ordering from within your country helps you avoid the customs/tax man at the border.

I would still avoid FrozenCPU as much out of protest for the price gouging on this particular component and for also falsely claiming other retailers whore products but not them. But this is just my principles.