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evilangel
12-21-2004, 12:35 AM
Basically I am starting this thread to log my watercooling project which will run in conjunction with my prescott overclocking project. I have almost finished gathering my components for the watercooling rig (just need to buy the pump...looking at a eheim 1250 which pumps around 1200 litres per hour). I have watercooled before and with success but only ever used 3/8 fittings on my old AMD athlon rig. This round i am going 1/2" for a less restrictive flow of liquid. So far the components i have itching to be installed are the Danger Den Maze4 CPU block and the danger den MAZE4 Northbridge block the gpu block is still to be purchased but the pump is more important at this stage. I have always used water as the liquid of choice for my H2O rigs and has always come with that extra risk of having components damaged if the system ever sprung a leak along with the problems of algae and anti corrosion treatment, so i decided to think of trying to find a liquid that was non conductive (Dielectric) and non corrosive (inert) it wasn't until i had read an article on a submersion cooling project where the liquid used was a substance called fluorinert hmmmm sounds interesting, then a few nights back i read a post by glorfy where he had linked to a product which was exactly what i was looking for but alas not available in new zealand......brain starts working overtime....emailing time. I emailed a person i know asking if he knew of any substances similar to this in new zealand to cut the chase i am going to post an edited version of the email that i sent and the email i recieved


just thought i would quickly ask if you know where i can find some stuff similar to inertx it is dielectric and i would like to experiment with it in my watercooling system. it is based on the fluid that was used to cool the cray T90 (perfluorocarbon) according to a review i read on inertx it mentioned it being fluorinert based

I have attached an info sheet (word format) for you to have a look at,

regards

Ross

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Quite toxic though. I got some dielectric fluid that I have lying here, it is called Opticool. I have xxxxxxxxxxxxx of it. I was gonna use it for Submersion 3 but just couldn't find the time to do it. I also have some Fluorinert but they are highly toxic when burned. Mind you the boiling point for Fluorinert is about 400°C. But still....

As soon as i got this reply i was jumping for joy i had managed to source some nonconductive cooling liquid due to privacy reasons i do not wish to disclose inpublic on who i have been dealing with however those who have spoken to me on msn ;) have a fair idea. The stuff i will be getting my hands on has better advantages like the ability to fill in small gaps and pockets better than water (water wetter needs to be used to achieve similar results)

hopefully the moderators don't mind me posting the beginnings of this project log here it will be a few weeks before i update it with some results

also i will be retiring the MSI 865PE-platinum for an Abit IC7 due to the fact MSI has kindly blocked access to the vcore settings while running prescott cpu's

feel free to post any comments or questions regarding this project :thumbs:

P.S parts of quoted emails have been edited or censored to protect the privacy of my contact to the best of my ability

Killer Munkey
12-21-2004, 11:52 AM
aswome evil, let me know how it goes. i'll have my own water setup soon and i'd love to hear how these alternative liquids work out

count minaba
12-22-2004, 12:13 AM
Very interesting evilangel... I'll be following your progress.
Don't drink any of that stuff by mistake :thumb:

evilangel
12-22-2004, 12:45 AM
thanks guys i shall get this thread upto date once i have everything ready to roll

:thumbs:

evilangel
01-05-2005, 02:28 AM
Update: picking up new motherboard and also picking up the pump tomorrow got a good deal on a 1000 Litre per hour pump. Also waiting on word for collection of either the opticool or the fluorinert was going to do a run with water first but then decided it may be best to keep the system free of any water incase it causes any problems when i drop the non conductive fluid into the system. will post some pics of the set up progress while the mobo tray is on the desk aswell as the system fully installed into the case

evilangel
01-06-2005, 05:26 AM
Ok watercooling gear is installed along with new mobo Abit IS7 currently running water through it to iron out any spots that may hinder flow (already found one area where the tube is kinked which is restricting the flow(tube linking from CPU block to NB block) a little bit will be fixing that issue later today, it is now 3:19 in the morning had to do two reformats due to getting slammed by a virus while updating norton (should have installed sp2 first which i did on the second round :rolleyes:) also i find it better working on the rig while the wife and son are asleep as there is less chance of being disturbed while i am trying to concentrate. anyway i do have a couple of pictures one i took when i found out my reservoir was not going to fit so i had to race over to the hardware store to pick up a T joiner and a couple of elbow joiners and settled for a T-Line instead of a reservoir (only thing i hate is it takes a long time to get the air out of the system will post those pics when i have had some sleep and managed to lose this microsoft migrane i have contracted

death metal
01-08-2005, 12:06 AM
i wanna see the pix!!!

evilangel
01-08-2005, 01:22 AM
as you wish :D

this is how it was going to be set up but no room for the res

evilangel
01-08-2005, 01:24 AM
The T-Line i ended up settling for at the filling stage

Note: there is a slight kink in the line going from the cpu block to the NB block but was rectified by using a couple of elbows linking the cpu and nb blocks

Killer Munkey
01-08-2005, 06:02 AM
What dimensions is your tubing? I must say the set up does look like it will work good.

Snafu
01-08-2005, 06:57 AM
Cool evilangel. Glad to see the pics :thumb: . I have a question too. Is the airflow over the rad blowing out of the case front and teh rear fans blow in?

Most systems I have seen the rad out back where the exhaust fans usually are.

evilangel
01-08-2005, 11:17 AM
the air flows in through the radiator and the rear fans blow out along with the 120mm fan in the top of the case

BB_One
01-09-2005, 08:14 AM
Interesting project evilangel,

I'm curious about one thing however, the coolant you are using is what? Next question is do you know if it has the same or similar mass/density as water? My concerns would be that due to a higher density, it's cooling would be less then water when going through the rad.
Kind of like trying to cool oil instead of water if you see what I mean. One would need a much bigger rad for oil at an equivalent quantity of water for example.

evilangel
01-09-2005, 01:04 PM
at the moment i am only using water while i am waiting for the guy who has the fluorinert to be able to get the stuff out so i can pick some up as he is quite busy with his main job. fluorinert is also able to be pumped like water it is not thick in constency. it is also used in the coolant for liquidcooling rigs under the name inertX.click here for inertX review (http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD04MjM=)

evilangel
01-09-2005, 01:09 PM
What dimensions is your tubing? I must say the set up does look like it will work good.

dimension of the tubing is 12.5mm inside diameter (0.5")
radiator is a heater core from a mini clubman(mr bean car)

JeffP
01-10-2005, 06:20 PM
If my memory serves me correcty your using fluorinert in a totally useless and incorrect method. It doesn't have great heat dissapation properties does it? Typically i've seen it used where the fluorinert was chilled with a cooler and the boards were submerged in it to create the cooling effect. What Cray did back in the early days.

I guess I should ask which fluorinert did he get you?

evilangel
01-10-2005, 06:35 PM
we will soon find out when i get it and drop it in the system:D

harleybro
01-17-2005, 02:56 PM
Kinda new here and wanted to give you another suggestion. For me it is readily available since I am working in a manufacturing plant that has this stuff. I am running de-ionized water. It is extremely pure and will work like water without anything in it. I am using it in my rig and actually ran a leak check by poering the pump only. I am curious though how yours turns out. Look forward to some temps. b4 and after.

glorfy
01-23-2005, 01:54 AM
Any luck yet Evil? I'm gonna choke if I don't start breathing soon! :)

Killer Munkey
01-23-2005, 07:21 AM
ditto, were all eager to hear how its giong evil :thumb:

evilangel
01-23-2005, 10:31 AM
I am still waiting on the fluorinert