bad news....

[shimmishim]

okay....

hmm...

i stepped away from my computer for about a minute...

come back... monitor is powered off...

look at computer.. notice it is off....

hit power button.... nothing...

turn off power on psu then turn it back on...

watch light on mobo...

steady green light...

when i hit the power button, the red light flickers but no go...



so what's dead? my psu? my board? or my processor?

:(

this is so sad... man... i can't believe it...

i can't believe something died on me already!!!

[ThugsRook]

:wack:

i donno ~ start tearin it apart

unplug power
remove battery
clear cmos

try it barebones...

[shimmishim]

unplugged power.....

cleared cmos...

nothing happened...

red light flickers then nothing starts up....

i've killed my epox board before and the power started up even when that was dead...

so i am going to assume it's not the processor or the board...

i have a funny feeling that it's the psu though...

[Tony]

Sounds like the board is dead.My IC7 was exactly the same...

[pointreyes]

How did AMD know what you did? :scratch: It's the attack of AMD upon you for trying an Intel. :look:

[shimmishim]

no beeps... nothing....

the only other option is to stick back in my abit nf7-s with my tbred...

argh what a hassle..

[shimmishim]

if same thing happens... no power... can i assume then it's the power supply you guys think?

[pointreyes]

At least you would know if the PSU is dead.

Sorry, my post out of sequence with yours. Yeah, if the old system does not power then maybe it's the PSU.

[shimmishim]

Originally posted by pointreyes
How did AMD know what you did? :scratch: It's the attack of AMD upon you for trying an Intel. :look:

hehehe... that's funny...

[LastRide]

Did you read what Tony said up above?.His died and did the same thing as yours.Atleast you can RMA it and get a new one.

[shimmishim]

sucks... big time....

i really think it's the mobo now...

board would still boot up even if cpu were dead correct?

argh...

i thought the ic7 was supposed to be a good board!!!! AHHH

[oldfart]

board would still boot up even if cpu were dead correct?
No

[Skully]

Pull the mobo out of the case' be careful about static electricity! Use just cpu, memory, videocard, see if it will fire into the bios. If not then most likely bad mobo.

[eva2000]

could be power surge ? is your pc protected ?

i never run my pcs without an UPS attached between it and the mains power supply

[shimmishim]

i have surge protector...

pretty sure it's the board....

[shimmishim]

Originally posted by oldfart
No

so how do i know which it is then....

???

i've tried running only ram, video card, and cpu...

power comes on for a split second then turns right off...

Tony says he had same problem before and it was the board...

nothing looks physically wrong with the chip...

[ThugsRook]

test all those parts in another system.
if everything works then its the board ;)

[shimmishim]

it's not psu... it's working right now...

it's not ram.. it's working right now...

only things left are board and cpu...

argh... i have no other system in which to test the cpu...

some people can't afford to run two p4 systems!!!! :)

oh wait.. i have a centrino laptop... D'OH...

[shimmishim]

and for that matter if it is the cpu...

how many people have killed a cpu running 1.6 volts in 4 days???

i'd understand if i were running something really high...

but 1.6 volts??? that's like nothing for an amd processor!!! lol.. i know it's not amd... but you get what i mean...


i just refuse to believe its the cpu i guess (not cuz i want to keep it.... but rather because there would be no reason for it to get burned out)

[ThugsRook]

in that case you have a 50/50 chance of getting it right ;)

which shall you replace 1st? :look:

[shimmishim]

here's teh deal...

i'd hate to send back a board that could potentially do 300 mhz to get a board that can't do ... 300 mhz :( and the wait as well..

i'm afraid i'm gonna be moved by the time they return me the new board... then again i could always cross ship one with them as soon as my rma is approved...

i was always thinking with the cpu i could send to one of you guys (thugs, oldfart, lastride) and have you test it for me to see if it's dead or not...

argh.... which would be fastest???

or can someone send me a cheap celeron processor for me to test on this board?

thanks!

[shimmishim]

will a mobo power up w/o the cpu?

[oldfart]

I'd send you a CPU to test with if I had an extra one kicking around. I'd also be glad to test yours out for ya, but I'll be traveling for the next few weeks and would not get a chance to do it.

1.6 - 1.65 Vcore is nothing that should kill a CPU. If I had to flip a coin, I'd say mobo, but you wont know until you try a new CPU.

[Thor]

Shim, sorry to hear about your board. What you described at the beginning looks to be a dead board. I've read many describing the same at the Abit forums, and this was just a bad luck in your part. Lots of people are screaming about Abit's QC in terms of numbers of defective boards being slipped past and on to retail shelves. Best to RMA quickly, and see if you can pick up a spare board for the meanwhile. Maybe an IS7. :)

[Chuck232]

Man that really sucks... Perhaps running the FSB that high damaged the board?

Anyways, you could see if one of your friends has a socket 478 chip that they'd let you borrow for a couple hours just to test...

[Jojo1971]

send me your 2.4c and ill be glad to test it for you. just pay for both shipping though..

[pastorjay]

Shim... I am right here in south burbs of CHicago... send me your chip and I will test it. PM me if ya want. We are only a little over an hour away from each other... I could even have it in a day maybe if we get lucky.

PJ

[shimmishim]

thanks!

PM sent...

and RMA in process!!!

[LastRide]

Shimm,Abit is suppose to have a good RMA service.I think you can have them send you a new board while you send out yours.You need a credit card as they will charge you I believe for the replacement until your mobo arrives to them and then they will recredit your card back.This way atleast you can get a replacement back quick and save a lot of time.I am not sure if this right.Maybe someone can verify if this is correct.

[shimmishim]

yes you're right...

once i get approval of my RMA I am going to cross ship with them...

you pay a $150 security deposit .. they send you board... you send them board... once they get it and check board, they credit you the security deposit...

not too bad!

but 10 working days to process RMA... ugh... man, do they get that many RMA's?

[LastRide]

For normal RMA cases, the average turnaround time should be within 10 working days from the time we receive your return until the time we ship out the replacement.

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6726

That would be for a normal RMA case where you send yours and by the time you receive a replacement.I assume if you pay the deposit you should have a replacement fairly quick and if you use paypal there is a $7 charge,not sure if you get that back but it sounds like you do.Check out the link it explains everything.Should be only be 2-3 days

[Thor]

Originally posted by shimmishim
yes you're right...

once i get approval of my RMA I am going to cross ship with them...

you pay a $150 security deposit .. they send you board... you send them board... once they get it and check board, they credit you the security deposit...

not too bad!

but 10 working days to process RMA... ugh... man, do they get that many RMA's?

Well, it's faster than waiting months for it. Too bad, you don't have a local retailer to try and trade it in.

[ThugsRook]

well, since you already have to pay....

why not just buy a new one, and when you get it, return the dead one?

[LastRide]

He could buy a new one and send the other back from where he bought it from for a refund,but he might pay a restocking fee,shipping or other fee's.

[shimmishim]

yup... restocking fees suck... 15%... ugh...

might as well pay a little extra for it and get it all refunded...

[ThugsRook]

right, hes gonna hafta pay for shipping anyways ~ may as well get his board faster.

and he will get a chance to verify his chip is ok before sending out his 300fsb board too.

:-)

[shimmishim]

yuppers!!!

i think... right?

hehehe....

yeah.. me get board... then me send back board if it's not working...

but what if i determine it's not the board and the cpu???

:eek:

[ThugsRook]

if thats the case ~ that would rule out every part of your system, except for YOU :na:

you have tried everything except the board and chip in other systems right?

if you still dont boot then its the chip ~ and youll have an IC7 for sale ;)

[shimmishim]

oh well.. we'll just assume its the board!

if it ships out today it'll be here by thursday... if it ships out tomorrow my new ic7 will be here by friday!

yay!!!

[ThugsRook]

im just curious~

did you have any fans running off the moboard fan headers?
if so how many and what kind?

:scratch:

[shimmishim]

0

the only one running off the header was the nb fan...

i HAD the retail one on for about .... 1 startup of windows... but realized temps were ridiculous and took it off almost immedately after that...

and my new geil gold dragon is supposed to be here soon as well... :( guess i'll just have to use it on my nf7-s until my ic7 comes... :)

[JoeBar]

Sorry to hear about your probs m8. :(
I hope that u will be up and running soon... :)

[shimmishim]

thanks!

no word from abit yet on my new board... sigh..

[shimmishim]

so yeah

the amd gods are after me!!!

my abit nf7-s has been so unstable ever since i decided to install the ic7 and use it....

i've gotten 4 straight errors while playing warcraft iii so i lowered my timings from 2-3-3-6 to 2.5-3-3-7 and yet i still got a random reboot just a few minutes ago..

i also clocked my processor down to 2.5 ghz @ 1.9 volts to 2.4 ghz @ 1.8 volts...

hopefuly that'll help a lilttle..

man, can't wait to get my ic7 back running again!

[shimmishim]

it comes today!!!

i was wondering though...

do i need to reformat my hard drive even if i used the same board before?

[Thor]

Originally posted by shimmishim
i was wondering though...

do i need to reformat my hard drive even if i used the same board before?

Absolutely not!

As long as your harddisk was using the last OS with this motherboard.

[pastorjay]

Na, just hook her all up and let her fly!

[shimmishim]

awww..... YEAH!

fun fun fun... fun fun fun....

benchmarks like crazy coming today!

assuming it was the board and not the cpu.. :wack:

[shimmishim]

btw... you guys respond FAST...

:)

[Chuck232]

Yeah, we live here.;)

So do you have the board yet?

[shimmishim]

nope....

board is still "out for delivery"

it should be here sometime between 12 noon and 2 pm :)

[DAPUNISHER]

Well? Don't leave me hanging, what happened?

While Abit does turn out some of the best overclocker's boards time after time they historically have the highest RMA rate in the business from what I've read.

[shimmishim]

sorry1

board came...

everything is fine...

turns out the first board DID die on me after all...

currrently running 12 x 285 until i can get my geil gold dragon rma'ed... too many problems... too many errors on memtest...

and i can't even run 2T so i think that may be part of the problem...

anyone have any other suggestions for memory?

[Thor]

Glad to hear your cpu is ok and your new motherboard arrived. And if you kill this one, let me know if you want to sell that chip. Teehee! ;)

[shimmishim]

it's a good chip!

it'll boot at 3.6 but needs more voltage than 1.7 bios...
:)

[Thor]

3.5ghz on 1.65vcore, it's an AWESOME chip!

[shimmishim]

:)

so yeah... i guess i'm gonna just return it and not rma it..

geil hasn't contacted me yet... argh... so slow...

[ThugsRook]

Originally posted by shimmishim
currrently running 12 x 285 until i can get my geil gold dragon rma'ed... too many problems... too many errors on memtest...
and i can't even run 2T so i think that may be part of the problem...
anyone have any other suggestions for memory?

sorry man ~ i dont spent too much of my time DETUNING ram ;)

[shimmishim]

well i'm having problems....

prime stable and everything...

but still reboots on me when i play games...

and it has to be the ram and the thousands of errors it gives me...

[ThugsRook]

boost vagp to 1.65v
lock agp lock @ 67mhz

HTH :)

[shimmishim]

agp lock at 66

agp voltage up to 1.65 already :(

[ThugsRook]

what vid card?

in bios ~ disable vid card bios cachable

[shimmishim]

i have gainward expert ti4200 128 meg

disable video cache


you think it's a video card issue that's causing it to reboot though?

[ThugsRook]

if the only time it reboots is during a game ~ then yea its a vid problem of some sort.

how far can you OC before this happens?

[shimmishim]

oc the video card or the cpu ? :)

[ThugsRook]

concidering that youre crashing you shouldnt be OCing the vid card right now.

....the cpu.

[Chuck232]

I've heard of people being Prime stable, but not stable during gaming... Don't know what's up with that.

[shimmishim]

video card is at 295/553 (not too high)

cpu is 12 x 285 = 3.4 ghz @ 1.575 volts

prime tested for 9+ hours

[shimmishim]

me too...

but i mean usually if the o/c is too high (on my amd processr) i'd get memory read error or something then crash out of game...

or get a hard lock...

it just reboots w/o warning...

o/c maybe too high.. dunno... i REALLY want to blame the ram though ... hehehe...

so yeah...

no crashes yet at 3.4 ghz... let's see how long it lasts for though...



Originally posted by Chuck232
I've heard of people being Prime stable, but not stable during gaming... Don't know what's up with that.

[Croc]

Man that was intense following your saga shimmishim.

I think I will try to start a new on-line reality show where overclockers have to diagnose and fix problems under the clock :-)