P4 2.4B SL6RZ @ 3.48ghz

[ThugsRook]

Test System
P4 2.4B SL6RZ-3252
Abit IC7 (bios v15)
Kingston HyperX 3000 2x512mb (c2622)
GF4 ti4600 | det 43.03 | DX9a
Swiftech MCX4000 | 92mm fan | AS3
SBLive5.1 | WD800jb | Enermax 550w



Benchmarks

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-p95.gif Prime95 v23.41
2400:133 = 84.5 ms
2520:140 = 80.6 ms
2700:150 = 74.9 ms
2880:160 = 70.4 ms
3060:170 = 66.4 ms
3240:180 = 62.6 ms
3420:190 = 59.2 ms
3546:197 = 56.9 ms



http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-3dm2k1.gif 3DMark2001
2400:133 = 13619
2520:140 = 13999
2700:150 = 14582
2880:160 = 15106
3060:170 = 15553
3240:180 = 16006
3420:190 = 16427
3546:197 = 16726



http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-q3a.gif Quake III Arena 1152x864
2400:133 = 256.9 fps
2520:140 = 264.9 fps
2700:150 = 278.9 fps
2880:160 = 291.3 fps
3060:170 = 301.1 fps
3240:180 = 311.2 fps
3420:190 = 318.9 fps
3546:197 = 323.4 fps



http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-ut2k3.gif UT2003 Demo 1024x768 Flyby
2400:133 = 176.3 fps
2520:140 = 180.6 fps
2700:150 = 186.9 fps
2880:160 = 191.3 fps
3060:170 = 195.5 fps
3240:180 = 198.0 fps
3420:190 = 199.9 fps
3546:197 = 200.9 fps



http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-ut2k3.gif UT2003 Demo 1024x768 Botmatch
2400:133 = 65.1 fps
2520:140 = 68.2 fps
2700:150 = 73.1 fps
2880:160 = 77.9 fps
3060:170 = 82.4 fps
3240:180 = 87.3 fps
3420:190 = 91.7 fps
3546:197 = 95.1 fps



http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-a32.gif Aida32 v3.70 Read / Write
2400:133 = 3660 / 1279 mb/s
2520:140 = 3866 / 1343 mb/s
2700:150 = 4143 / 1454 mb/s
2880:160 = 4410 / 1541 mb/s
3060:170 = 4701 / 1632 mb/s
3240:180 = 4979 / 1732 mb/s
3420:190 = 5271 / 1826 mb/s
3546:197 = 5464 / 2391 mb/s



100% Stability
max speed on 1.525v = 3.37g 187fsb
max speed on 1.550v = 3.39g 188fsb
max speed on 1.575v = 3.42g 190fsb
max speed on 1.600v = 3.45g 191fsb
max speed on 1.625v = 3.46g 192fsb
max speed on 1.650v = 3.48g 193fsb



:wave: -thugsrook

[Mikki]

:rock:

[ThugsRook]

140fsb results are posted.

sorry bout the missing graphics ~ my server is down :(

[ThugsRook]

150fsb results are posted ~ yAWn ;)

[Chuck232]

:yummy: Nice...

[Mikki]

I don't remember getting that much of a jump in scores with a 10fsb increase...:eyepop:

[LastRide]

Good luck!,we'll be here waiting on you.:wave:

[Mikki]

As fast as Thugs is we won't have to wait long....;):rolleyes:

[ThugsRook]

hehe~
yea im zippin along just fine here, almost done 160fsb.

i know this system very well upto about 187fsb, so until i try for 190fsb ( :look: ) i shouldnt have any problems :D

[ThugsRook]

160fsb is posted ~ still on def vcore.

[ThugsRook]

170fsb is posted ~ still on def vcore....

[pastorjay]

Sweet! Keep it coming man!

[Hawk]

You got yourself a sweet 533FSB processor there. . . . .;)

[LastRide]

Hope you break 17,000 on 3DMark with the 2.4B.You fell 30-40 points shy with your 2.53B.Depending what the 2.4B is capable of.:rock:

[Mikki]

Screw the scores...I wanna see 200fsb...:eyepop: :twisted: :rock:

[dbwillis]

Like the new format Thugs!

[ThugsRook]

thx :-)

180fsb is posted ~ still on def vcore.... :rock:

[ThugsRook]

190fsb is posted ~
had to raise the vcore to 1.55v~
NBs is still on 533~

:rock:

[Hawk]

DAMMMMM. . . . . You gotta really SWEET CPU. . . Come on, let's see 200FSB. . . . . .





Originally posted by ThugsRook
190fsb is posted ~
had to raise the vcore to 1.55v~
NBs is still on 533~

:rock:

[ThugsRook]

OK, 200fsb :chit:
http://home.comcast.net/~d3rook/2400b/3600.gif


memory
http://home.comcast.net/~d3rook/2400b/400ddr.gif

[Chuck232]

:eek: That's awesome man! :o

I wanna see 17K 3D Mark 2K1...:yummy:

[Mikki]

Congrats on 200fsb Thugs, that rocks! :rock: :beer:

[LastRide]

WOW!,thats some sweet chip you have there,hehe.:D

[Hawk]

THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! ! ! !:deviltail


I wanna see 210FSB...........:eek:

[ThugsRook]

i cant seem to get benchmarks out of 200fsb :cry:

im gonna drop it down to 195fsb and work my way up.

[Hawk]

Come on, 133FSB to just shy of 200 is VERY IMPRESSIVE. . . .
But hey, you get benchs at 200, you can brag. . . .

:wave:






Originally posted by ThugsRook
i cant seem to get benchmarks out of 200fsb :cry:

im gonna drop it down to 195fsb and work my way up.

[dbwillis]

Damn, thats a nice chip Thugs!

[ThugsRook]

:beat: 195fsb wont play either :beat:

ok ill go back to 191fsb and start from there! :smash:

[Hawk]

Thugsrook: We need 250% Scottie. . . . .



533 CPU: I Don't think we can make it captain. . . .








HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :smash: :rotflmao:

[ThugsRook]

LOL :lol:

i needed that.....

[LastRide]

Give it 1.7V,the IC7 undervolts .20-.25 anyways..LOL.

[ThugsRook]

191 wouldnt play either :smash:

lets recap.....
190fsb 1.55v = OK :rock:
191fsb 1.65v = not ok :cry:

whats does that tell you boys and girls? > > > :beat:

lemme see if i can fix it w/o losing the nice performance curve ive got going :rolleyes:

[ThugsRook]

noone took a guess?


well it looks like its a moboard limitation.
NBs533 takes a nose dive after 190fsb (RIP)
so i am now officially in NBs667 territory :rolleyes:

yea the benchmarks sukazz ~ gonna need to tweak the bios for performance (IC7 GA) or im gonna be stuck @ 190fsb :smash:

[ThugsRook]

oh im sorry i forgot to mention ~ i am running 195fsb 1.65v so far....
(but in NBs667 mode)

[dbwillis]

"Schweeet":eek2:

[pastorjay]

very, very interesting.... <-----wish I could do an accent for that!

[LastRide]

I was going to say mobo limitation.Lets see what you can do with the 667 strap.

[ThugsRook]

check this out: :eek2:

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-a32.gif Aida32 v3.70 Read / Write
3510:195fsb NBs800 racer = 5399 / 2364

[LastRide]

What the %^&*.:eek:

[pastorjay]

Nice!

[ThugsRook]

playin around with the IC7 moboard bios (gaming accellerator) a little and here's what ive come up with....

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-3dm2k1.gif 3DMark2001 @ 195fsb
http://home.comcast.net/~d3rook/2400b/bg1.gif


ill try and keep using the NBs800 Street Racer and see if i cant go a little further :deviltail

[ThugsRook]

195fsb benchmarks are posted ~ (using NBs800 Street Racer Mode)

[Jim]

Sweet, love the look of the new VB too. :)

[eva2000]

Originally posted by ThugsRook
playin around with the IC7 moboard bios (gaming accellerator) a little and here's what ive come up with....

ill try and keep using the NBs800 Street Racer and see if i cant go a little further :deviltail very nice :)

[ThugsRook]

TY :-)
....not to mention i had a major typo! :rotflmao:

yea thats right ~ im pulling a HOCP on you guys :na:

hehe~ ;)

[ThugsRook]

196fsb benchmarks are posted.....
(again using NBs800 Street Racer Mode)

[ThugsRook]

197fsb benchmarks are posted.....
(again using NBs800 Street Racer Mode)

[ThugsRook]

looks like 197fsb is as far as she'll do gaming benchmarks.
i tried 1.7v~
i tried no GA~
still wouldnt finish 3dmark.



however ~ here's an AIDA32 @ 200fsb....

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-a32.gif Aida32 v3.70 Read / Write
3600:200fsb NBs800 racer c2622 = 5544 / 2427



BTW: did you guys guys know that AIDA32 has a HD benchmark in it?
i didnt :blush:

[ThugsRook]

how much further can i at least bootup windows and take a screenshot on 1.7v?
not much, i only made it to 201fsb....

http://home.comcast.net/~d3rook/2400b/3618.gif



im gonna start stress testing now.
stress testing will consist of 5 hours p95 and 5 hours m86 (all 11 c on)
1st ill see how far i can get on default vcore, then on 1.6v, then on an egg frying 1.65v.

:wave:

[Jim]

BTW: did you guys guys know that AIDA32 has a HD benchmark in it?

Don't know where that is, but when you open Web/Overclocking, there's no link for BE. :(
Yet. :)

[ThugsRook]

check aida's drop down windows....

[ThugsRook]

Originally posted by Chuck232
:eek: That's awesome man! :o

I wanna see 17K 3D Mark 2K1...:yummy:

once im done with the stress testing ill go for a few banzai runs for 17k.

should not be a problem tho cause i run my benchmarks in "quality mode"....
push my vid card a little harder, run 197fsb, drop to performance mode, im there :cool:

LastRide hit 20k using a 9800pro @ only 190fsb (2.4B) by comparison.
that should give you ATI guys an idea of where to place my gaming scores.

:wave:

[Hawk]

All I can say is that I am truly impressed. . . . . I bow to your overclockablility. . . . :rock:

[SupermanCK]

damn damn damn nice chip ...
197 from a 2.4b...

[eva2000]

Originally posted by ThugsRook
check aida's drop down windows.... didn't know that what version 3.7 ?

[LastRide]

Once you overclock your card 17,200-17,300 I figure.You will be all teeth.:D

[ThugsRook]

THX GUYS! :wave:

max 100% stable speed on def vcore (1.525v) is 3366mhz 187fsb.

gonna work on testing max on 1.6v now....

[LastRide]

I just don't know about P95 anymore.My 2.8C errors in a second at 3.5GHz but yet I played a couple hours of BF1942 yesterday with 400 bots a side and CPU Time Given To AI on max and never crashed and the game ran smooth.Going by Prime I shouldn't have lasted 10 seconds.Maybe my system isn't 100% stable but I don't think its as unstable as prime says it is.Its always the rounding error immediately and memtest86 tests it stable all tests 5 passes and cache on.:scratch: .I would have to say either false errors or the memory controllers on these boards.

[ThugsRook]

prime95 is fine ~ its you i dont know about ;)

youre hitting a limit and its not your cpu ~ keep looking.

[LastRide]

Yeah but I still don't trust Prime.:na:


Originally posted by ThugsRook
prime95 is fine ~ its you i dont know about ;)

youre hitting a limit and its not your cpu ~ keep looking.

[ThugsRook]

usually when p95 doesnt agree with the rest of your apps (either way) its the motherboard or something effecting the motherboard stability.

:wave:

[JoeBar]

OMG what a cpu! :eyepop:

[ThugsRook]

THX! :wave:

max 100% stable speed on 1.6v is 3447mhz 191fsb.

gonna work on testing max on 1.65v now....

[ThugsRook]

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-3dm2k1.gif 3DMark2001
http://home.comcast.net/~d3rook/2400b/16844.gif

3.45g 191fsb
nbs800 | street racer | c2622
gf4600 @ 325x740

[Mikki]

Nice......:-) :wave:

[ThugsRook]

http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-3dm2k1.gif 3DMark2001
http://home.comcast.net/~d3rook/2400b/17111.gif

3.55g 197fsb
nbs800 | street racer | c2622
gf4600 @ 325x740

[eva2000]

very nice :)

[JoeBar]

Nice score. :wave:

[shimmishim]

lol...

nice chip you got there!!!

man these 2.4B's and 2.53B's are still sweet chips huh?


btw...

when you say 1.65 vcore, do you mean that's what it's set to in the bios? or that's what hardware doc reads?

cuz i know the ic7 undervolts...

[ThugsRook]

1.65v is the motherboard setting.
ic7 undervolts according to WHM.

:-)

[shimmishim]

so what's the highest you would set it to in the bios?

i'm thinking my chip can do 3.6 (12 x 300) but i may need a lil more voltage

i've heard of SNDS occuring at 1.7 volts

too risky to set it to 1.7 in the bios you thnk?

[ThugsRook]

let me put it this way....

i benchmark upto 1.7v~
i stress test upto 1.65v~
and i run 1.6v ;)

:wave:

[pastorjay]

I agree with ya there Thugs... I am not to keen, especially on these newer p4's of going over 1.6.

PJ

[shimmishim]

so you're saying that you 2xprime95 at 1.65 volts... if it passes then you lower the voltage to 1.6 volts and run it there? (these are all bios setting correct?)


Originally posted by ThugsRook
let me put it this way....

i benchmark upto 1.7v~
i stress test upto 1.65v~
and i run 1.6v ;)

:wave:

[LastRide]

He runs whatever is stable at 1.6V.Not run at the highest stable at 1.65V and then just drop the vcore.I haven't read any reports of guys killing their 800 CPU's yet which is a good sign.I seen some guys running 1.7V and over.

[shimmishim]

yay!

then i'm running 1.65 until i hear of someone killing theirs :)

[ThugsRook]

for you lower multiplier guys it can be worth it to go 1.625v or 1.65v cause youll get a good amount of fsb from that.

on the other hand i only get 2 or 3 fsb ~ hardly worth it. (18x multiplier)

:-)

[shimmishim]

you think i should try 1.675 or even 1.7? :)

i can boot into windows at 1.65 and 3600 mhz

i can run benchies even at this speed as well...

[ThugsRook]

for benchmarks you can try.
but i wouldnt do any more then that ~ even then not for too long.

:)

[Thor]

Originally posted by LastRide
He runs whatever is stable at 1.6V.Not run at the highest stable at 1.65V and then just drop the vcore.I haven't read any reports of guys killing their 800 CPU's yet which is a good sign.I seen some guys running 1.7V and over.

Yeah, me, I have mine at 1.725 set in the bios of my IC7. It goes down to 1.65 actual under full load. Keeping my fingers crossed. :)

[shimmishim]

ahh yes finally, someone that is running a bios of over 1.7 on the ic7!!!

what speed are you up to?

[LastRide]

I smell something burning:look: :lol:

[shimmishim]

ahhh

/me crosses fingers...

[Thor]

Originally posted by shimmishim
ahh yes finally, someone that is running a bios of over 1.7 on the ic7!!!

what speed are you up to?

275fsb max stable. Memory at 5:4 ddr440 2-7-3-3 settings at 2.8vdimm using OCZ EL Gold 3700s.

I tried 280, and no go on that, even at these high vcore settings, so I guess that's all this cpu has in it.

[Thor]

Originally posted by LastRide
I smell something burning:look: :lol:

My sense of smell sucks anyway. LOL!

I'm not worried as long as it doesn't get too warm in my comp room. Max temps on my IC7 readouts are at 64 celcius for the cpu. Luving the A/C.

[LastRide]

Shimm,didn't I tell you I could smell something burning..LOL.See,now your boards dead.:D

[shimmishim]

OMG!!!

hahaha...

i never tried 1.7 in the bios...

i was running it at 1.65 and 3.5 ghz...

man on man..

when i was taking my waterblock off the processor, the wb makes some nice contact with the cpu... it was so tight (with as3 of course) that it pulled the cpu right out of the socket as well!!!

argh...

oh well.. cpu has no burnt marks or anything so i assume my board is dead :(

maybe i'll get a new one with the new fan on the NB...

so who wants my extra NB fan??? :)

[ThugsRook]

if your cpu got stuck to the WB / HS ~ then you used too much AS.

[LastRide]

Never pull straight up to get a heatsink or waterblock off.Twist back and forth until it feels its loosened up and then rock it back and forth a little until it lets loose.Better yet if you can slide it off it would be the best way.Some mobo's won't allow that with the capacitors and other stuff in the way.Yeah,make sure you don't use too much paste.Apply it thin like paint.I never knew you still have to use paste with watercooling.Could water have gotten on the mobo?.Your temps are a too little high with water.With a MCX4000/92mm Panaflo fan at 280FSB and 2.4C I am at 36C.You have always had bad luck with heat.I remember when you had you AMD system your temps were somewhat high.What kind of case and how many case fans do you use and where are they placed?.I am interested when you get a new board if your temps stay the same.

[ThugsRook]

100% Stability
max speed on 1.525v = 3.37g 187fsb
max speed on 1.550v = 3.39g 188fsb
max speed on 1.575v = 3.42g 190fsb
max speed on 1.600v = 3.45g 191fsb
max speed on 1.625v = 3.46g 192fsb
max speed on 1.650v = ?

as you can see this chip doesnt care for vcore too much. it took a bios change to even get this far.

trying for 193fsb on 1.65v vcore next...

[JoeBar]

Seems that good oc'ing chips don't care about vcore too much. :)

[ThugsRook]

yep ~ looks like thats all shes got.
193fsb on 1.65v.

>game over<
if you would like to play again, please insert another chip

:wave:

[Hawk]

I'm amazed that chip can make it that high. . . . I have never seen a 533FSB chip do better then 170's. . . . .

:eek: You are the 533 king. . . . ;)

[ThugsRook]

hehe~ THX! :-)

im still not giving up looking for a 200fsb B chip on air tho....

:wave:

[LastRide]

Do you think its the chip or the board Thugs?.

[shimmishim]

may i speculate that it is the chip considering that the 2.4C's work at 12 x 200 mhz fsb...

or do you think it may be a chip/board incompatibility issue?

[ThugsRook]

altho i think the board gets "difficult" above 190fsb i dont think its a complete dead zone.

if i thought this chip could really do 200fsb on 1.65v id clip its BSEL5 pin (like a p4m) making it a default 200fsb chip.

i dont think it can tho :cry:

[shimmishim]

is 1000 points a lot in 3dmark2k1?

my difference is only 1000 points between a ti4200 and a 4600

that's not too bad...

[ThugsRook]

yes 1000 points is a lot in the "real world".

OC that 4600 yet? :deviltail

[ThugsRook]

just thought id post some gaming results on a GFFX 5900 vid card....
(@ 191fsb | Det 45.23 drivers)


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-3dm2k1.gif 3DMark200117673


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-3dm2k3.gif 3DMark20036158


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-q3a.gif Quake III Extreme 1152x768225.4 fps


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-ut2k3.gif UT2003 Demo 1024x768Flyby = 235.4 fps
Botmatch = 89.9 fps


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-x2.gif X2 Rolling Demo88.4 fps


http://www.bleedinedge.com/images/thugs/ico-xisle.gif X-Isle Tech Demo 1024x768170.3 fps


:wave:

[ThugsRook]

new bios (IC7 v17) got me to 195fsb on 1.625v, air cooled :rock:

[pastorjay]

:look:

That's some New Bios!!!

[SupermanCK]

would the ic7 work with 1.6A?

[ThugsRook]

yes :)

[ThugsRook]

Originally posted by ThugsRook
new bios (IC7 v17) got me to 195fsb on 1.625v, air cooled :rock:
i was wrong ~ it wasnt the bios that got me the extra fsb, it was the new 5900 vid card.
you heard me right, my ti4600 was holding me back.

(ill take a guess the external power is what helps the 5900 require less voltage from the moboard)

:-)

[dbwillis]

Nice...Im a bit behind you at 185, but memtest passed (185, 1:1, C2-2-2-6), Enhanced and Turbo (GAT)

Your 3dmark2001 is as 1280x1024/32 right?

[ThugsRook]

no ~ benchtests w/o any descriptions are run @ default settings.

3dm2k1 3dm2k3 and x2 are run in 1024res.

[dbwillis]

oh:-)

then my scores will go up if I lower the res:wave:

Im getting 17k+ now...but at 1280x1024/32..Ill try a lower one tonight..

[ThugsRook]

when are you gonna bump that GAT upto street racer mode? ;)

[dbwillis]

Im either on Turbo or Racer right now....
I just changed it last night...
Went from 533-auto to 800-racer or turbo..., everything else was AUTO

at least the mem passed 2-2-2-6 @ 185...

[ThugsRook]

very nice :cool:

ill assume youre well past the benchmark scores you got with your OCed 2.6C?

[dbwillis]

I am on Street Racer with Enhanced as well.

New specs..
3DMark2001se v330 - 13716 (at 1280x1028/32)
*************************************************************
175fsb, 350ddr, all auto
3DMark2001se v330 - 15815 (at 1280x1024/32)
*************************************************************
185fsb, 370ddr, 2-2-2-6, all auto
3DMark2001se v330 - 16061 (at 1280x1024/32)
*************************************************************
185fsb, 370ddr, 2-2-2-6, all auto
3DMark2001se v330 - 16427 (at 1280x1024/32) (9800Pro @ 391.5 x 353.2)
*************************************************************
185fsb, 370ddr, 2-2-2-6, all auto
3DMark2001se v330 - 17067 (at 1280x1024/32) (9800Pro @ 420.7 x 360.0)
*************************************************************
185fsb, 370ddr, 2-2-2-6, Racer and Enhanced
3DMark2001se v330 - 19019 (at 1024x768/32) (9800Pro @ 378x337)
*************************************************************
185fsb, 370ddr, 2-2-2-6, Racer and Enhanced
3DMark2001se v330 - 19352 (at 1024x768/32) (9800Pro @ 400x351)
*************************************************************


Old specs:>


********2.6C, 255fsb, 5:4,408mhz C2-3-3-6, PAT-off
----------------------------------------------------------
3Dmark2001se-330

13998--45.23 @ 290x601
13604--45.53 @ 275x575



********2.4b, 180fsb, 1:1, 360mhz, C2-3-3-6 PAT-on
----------------------------------------------------------
3Dmark2001se-330

13557--45.23 @ 285x601

12124--45.33 @ 290x601
13038--45.33 @ 290x590
13306--45.33 @ 275x574
13479--45.33 @ 275x613
13546--45.33 @ 275x601
13606--45.33 @ 285x601
13986--45.33 @ 285x601 and 2-2-2-6


Im getting application errors in Prime95 over 188fsb...vcore didnt help...it boots at 192 with 1.625v...but I get those errors...funny, Prime95 doesnt fail or error out, just crashes....

[Mikki]

dbwillis, is your P95 problem anything like the one Thugs brought up here (http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php3?threadid=997)? :)

[dbwillis]

Yes!!!:wave:

**but why?**:(