H1N1 (swine) Flu

[Snafu]

Thought I would pass this info along.


if you don't get vaccinated then you will very likely catch it (unless you live in a cave by yourself)
anyone presenting themselves with a cough and a fever is being treated as having this flu
(the temp for a fever depends on how you take your temp - ours is 100.4F)
(treated does not mean medication, you may be quarantined if in a hospital or told to stay home)
if you get it then you will be out for 7 days


This flu is in our area now (a couple of weeks before they release the vaccine) and we think we have it <ugh>

Hope you don't get it!

[Just Learnin']

Pretty sure I had it last Friday already, fever was above 104, the nastiest sweats and chills I ever had.

[Snafu]

Good luck to all and see you on the other side!

[ThugsRook]

stay away from the shots, and ppl that have had the shot.

[lakeside2189]

stay away from the shots, and ppl that have had the shot.

Are you saying that the vaccine is not a good idea? I had the regular flu shot about a month ago...So many sick people in the churches i work in that it's a must...

The swine shots are coming out this week...Have you heard some bad feedback? :look::eek::look:

[ThugsRook]

Are you saying that the vaccine is not a good idea? I had the regular flu shot about a month ago...So many sick people in the churches i work in that it's a must...

The swine shots are coming out this week...Have you heard some bad feedback? :look::eek::look:
i dont really wanna get into this....

dont take ANY of their shots.

[lakeside2189]

i dont really wanna get into this....

dont take ANY of their shots.

enough said :eek::eek: Thanks for the heads up :bow:

[Reese]

stay away from the shots, and ppl that have had the shot.

Thugs has a serious problem with anything to do with the government.
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Any new vaccine is dangerous. They have not had the proper time to be tested, so there are high chances of you suffering some side-effects.

Until I see actual proof that there are problems with the vaccine, aside from speculation, I wouldn't recommend you completely avoid it.

-Remember the whole 'Autism linked those measles vaccines' for babies. Well, that turned out to be false, and due to the rumors, measle related death is actually on the rise once again. A disease that we had already turned our back on and considered, case closed.

I would analyze what you find more dangerous, the risk of the flu, or side effects from the vaccine.

From some journalist...."Vaccines do cause side effects, and, in rare instances, the side effects can be serious. In particular, people who are already ill with another infection should avoid vaccines. But the odds that a flu vaccine would cause more harm than the illness itself are practically zero."

From what I have heard though, H1n1 is actually less severe than normal influenza. Over 100k people die from the normal flu each year. But, what everyone is afraid of is a mutation of H1n1, which could turn into a deadly pandemic, without any cure. This summer, the disease did NOT die, unlike the normal flu which dies each summer. This means H1n1 has all year to mutate, and scientists say it is a matter of when, not if it does. That being said, your vaccine would be useless against a new mutated version of H1n1.

Personally, my family and I are going to get the vaccines. Anyone with respitory problems are at serious risk of death with h1n1, like my mother.

[Snafu]

Our family is getting it for a few reasons:
- my wife works in a hospital and is required to be immunised
- my youngest is 3 and my other has asthma (spent three days in the hospital after her first attach with a virus)

I understand the concern with vaccines. attenuated and non-attenuated, with preservatives, etc. They are real concerns.

The pertussis vaccine for whooping cough is (or was) also had serious side-effects with low odds of getting one (1 in 10,000). The severest is complete mental retardation (very sadly).

The risk of the side effects versus the benefits of not getting a disease is something you have to weigh. Get the facts before judging (ex. some people may be more prone to the side effect than others or what are the risks if you get it?).

[Reese]

Just a fact I heard today about the origins of the 'swine flu' that I thought was interesting.

It is actually a bird flu. Remember all that scare a few years ago about it. Well what H1n1 is, is a bird flu, that was passed to a pig. At the same time, a human strain of influenza was passed to the same pig. Inside this pig, the two strains of flu merged, to create the H1n1 flu, which humans are able to contract.

So actually the 'swine flu' is the bird flu combined with the human version of influenza.

Just thought it was kind of interesting. Swine, was merely a vessel which lead to the bird flu being able to be caught by humans.

Edit: I would check to make sure you or your family are not allergic to any of the compounds in the vaccine. I found today that because of my mom's allergy to eggs, she cannot receive the vaccine.

Edit: On another note...The H1n1 vaccine contains a small dose of the actual H1n1 virus, which allows your body to create antibodies, like any vaccine. Anyone who is close to you with a weakened immune system (like those taking the steroid Prednisone-which is a common medication used to treat Asthma) should not receive the vaccine, or even be around anyone who has.

[Snafu]

I am not sure the origins of teh first flu virus but even the bird flu virus was at one time passed to a bird which mutated the virus into a different strain. The biggest concerns with the current swine flu was that it would be passed back into an animal population (like pigs, chickens, etc.) where it could mutate further and be passed back to people. Potentially creating an even more troublesome flu.

I do not know the specifics but there are different types of vacines. The two main types are:

> attentuated: prepared from live microorganisms or viruses cultured under adverse conditions leading to loss of their virulence but retention of their ability to induce protective immunity.

> acellular: a cell-free vaccine prepared from purified antigenic components of cell-free microorganisms, carrying less risk than whole-cell preparations.

The first type are easiest to produce and I believe this is the type used in the US. In Canada, the vaccine took longer to produce (and approve) and I believe it is the acellular type.

I didn't hear that about prednisone. Interesting.

[lakeside2189]

I think the flu shot and in this years case the double flu shot is a personal matter which we all have to decide for ourselves..

I never use to get it until 5 or so years ago and having to go into so many churches i found myself getting the flu every year..Not so much because there are sick people there but so many people there...

I haven't had it since i started getting the shots...That doesn't mean there are not people that do experience side effects. My mother had a bad reaction last year..

It is still a personal thing for everyone but I must admit i do hope i don't get the side effect that the Washington Redskin - AOL girl got...

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/nfl-cheerleader-says-flu-shot-caused-rare-neorological-disease