View Full Version : Rambus poised to take on DDR
Qba73
07-10-2003, 06:29 PM
SiS and Rambus seemingly poised to take on Dual DDR
check it here @ the inquirer
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10424
This should get intresting, not to mention the case against rambus was dismissed in the courts sending their share prices soaring.
Chuck232
07-11-2003, 04:14 AM
Hehehe.. but without Intel's support, will it really gain much attention of a foothold in the market again? Also, PC1200 is so much more expensive than almost all DDR. (BTW, isn't the highest standard for RDRAM PC1066?)
No 1200 is right (and they have faster stuff in the pipeline). Still, I agree, I don't think RDRam is going to go anywhere in the PC market.
We'll all I can say is they did not do it right the first time. . . :eek:
Qba73
07-11-2003, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by Hawk
We'll all I can say is they did not do it right the first time. . . :eek:
so true, they blew it the first time around and word of mouth coupled with expensive prices will keep them from going anywhere. i still remember how outrageous a stic of pc-800 was when it first came out.
And what about those memory terminator cards. .C-Rimm Card's . .:beat:
Rambus was doomed from the start. . . .
Chuck232
07-11-2003, 05:20 AM
I dunno, it just seemed like they made the technology too advanced for the current market. The design was too complicated, therefore doomed to fail.
Qba73
07-11-2003, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by Chuck232
I dunno, it just seemed like they made the technology too advanced for the current market. The design was too complicated, therefore doomed to fail.
no what did them in was they are proprietary and expensive! when it was learned that ddr gave you equal if not better performance, that was the nail in the coffin and when they lost intel's backing that didnt help either, hopefully they have learned from there blunders.
Mikki
07-11-2003, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Hawk
And what about those memory terminator cards. .C-Rimm Card's . .:beat:
Rambus was doomed from the start. . . .
But was it the memory's fault or was it the corporation's (or the deal with Intel) fault? :rolleyes:
Qba73
07-11-2003, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Hawk
And what about those memory terminator cards. .C-Rimm Card's . .:beat:
Rambus was doomed from the start. . . .
lol, i remember doing a setup when i first messd with rambus and didnt have a terminator card..i was like wtf!..lol
kONGO
07-11-2003, 10:50 AM
I know Rambus' memory is used a lot in networking equipment. Great bandwidth/pin numbers, serial interface and high transfer speeds makes it good for that kind of usage.
Anyway, RDRAM's downside was the license costs. It scaled too slowly too. If you think about it, PC4200 RDRAM still works well with the P4, and is plenty fast.
Pricey nowadays, though.
I think it's used in some supercomputer type setups also. 16-channel setups is something I've heard about (it scales very nicely that way - DDR sucks in that respect). Latency isn't too bit a deal in situations like that, since it's usually clustered systems where latency is higher in the inter-cluster connections anyway.
DDR-II will be the thing that takes over. At least that's the consensus today. But seeing as networking is serial, PCI Express will be serial, Serial-ATA is in, serial SCSI is on the way there may be a serial memory type needed in a few years. Parallel data buses are inherently problematic in a bit coherency perspective - trace lengths are extremely important as speeds increase. I wouldn't be surprised if there will come a memory type with 'embedded clock' (as PCI Express has) and a serial interface in a few years.
-kONGO
Qba73
07-11-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by kONGO
I know Rambus' memory is used a lot in networking equipment. Great bandwidth/pin numbers, serial interface and high transfer speeds makes it good for that kind of usage.
Anyway, RDRAM's downside was the license costs. It scaled too slowly too. If you think about it, PC4200 RDRAM still works well with the P4, and is plenty fast.
Pricey nowadays, though.
I think it's used in some supercomputer type setups also. 16-channel setups is something I've heard about (it scales very nicely that way - DDR sucks in that respect). Latency isn't too bit a deal in situations like that, since it's usually clustered systems where latency is higher in the inter-cluster connections anyway.
DDR-II will be the thing that takes over. At least that's the consensus today. But seeing as networking is serial, PCI Express will be serial, Serial-ATA is in, serial SCSI is on the way there may be a serial memory type needed in a few years. Parallel data buses are inherently problematic in a bit coherency perspective - trace lengths are extremely important as speeds increase. I wouldn't be surprised if there will come a memory type with 'embedded clock' (as PCI Express has) and a serial interface in a few years.
-kONGO
whoah kongo you just took me to school rt there..well said
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