Question about water cooling

[Tony]

Originally posted by BOB.Lostsoul.

I will donate the first victum. I mean computer. LOL
I have a new project I will be working on when I get off of this boat. A p4c800D system. And I have some question about water coolin. I am looking at the www.zalmanusa.com RESERATOR 1. Have any of you guys read or heard anything about that unit. Thxs for all the help on the p4c800 e guys.

[eva2000]

google.com for reviews there's a few out there... from what i read it ain't that great compared to other kits i.e. corsair hydrocool etc but it's quite

i think one review swapped waterblocks of the stock zalman unit for something else to improve cooling performance

[Jim]

Reviews from their website. Link (http://www.zalman.co.kr/usa/product/view.asp?idx=63&code=021)

http://www.playerz-portal.com/rese1.php
http://www.bit-tech.net/review/315/
http://www.nordichardware.com/reviews/cooling/2004/Zalman_passiv/


Definately a wicked looking thing. I wonder how well it would work with active cooling on the chamber.

[RotorHead]

From what I understand, the Resorator is not designed for the overclocking market. It is however, an excellent solution for building a silent PC. :thumb:

Here are some reviews that will give you some better information. :)

http://www.nordichardware.com/reviews/cooling/2004/Zalman_passiv/

http://www.bit-tech.net/review/315/

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/zalmanwater/

[thesaucier]

It is for the silent treatment However you just cant beat active cooling for thermal capasity.

[RotorHead]

If that’s what you want to do, it should be worth it.

And you got to admit…..That would look damn cool sitting on your desk. :rock:

[BOB.LostSoul]

Well this being my first water rig and I would like to get it done right the first time. I am going to look at other out of case water coolin idea's like the one Eve talked about the corsair hydrocool. I will be OCing so the zalman sounds like it will not fit the bill. I have plenty of time to think about this since we just left the dock this morning. Thxs for all the review links it will give me something to do. Hopefully I can find some H2H reviews with the zalman and the corsair

[thesaucier]

Look into Black ice.

[thesaucier]

Danger Den:
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/ex-rad-32.html

[Keri]

The Corsair Hydrocool is a Fine external system for someone new to watercooling. It makes you grow bigger "ones" so later on you will want to design your own internal setup and not have problems. I know, I have one but not in use since I grew bigger "ones" and went internal. :)

[thesaucier]

The Corsair Hydrocool sounds pretty nice for an external system and the addition of say a swiftech water block would be a great alternitive.

[Moonwizard]

Yeah, or why not go big and get a ww or maybe a rbx...

[eva2000]

The Corsair Hydrocool is a Fine external system for someone new to watercooling. It makes you grow bigger "ones" so later on you will want to design your own internal setup and not have problems. I know, I have one but not in use since I grew bigger "ones" and went internal. :)

my Hydrocool is growing bigger 'ones' too :D

[Keri]

my Hydrocool is growing bigger 'ones' too :D

:yikes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :yikes:

[Pointhore]

Skip right over the external setup and go with the internal do it yourself setup(DD cpu block, dd gpu block, DD Black Ice Extreme dual radiator, Pump of your choice and a few 120mm fans to keep things at thier coolest) It is a little more work ,but worth every penny when you are done. :yup: Everyone I know that starts out with the smaller water cooling setup, eventually gets the itch and spends the extra bucks on a bigger and better cooling solution.
After all, better cooling = lower temps and higher overclocks. :thumb:

[Keri]

All true Pointhore, Including myself but........First timers need to start with something with a degree of safety. I know I would never have drilled holes in my new $200 case or installed a complete internal W/C setup had I not gotten my "feet wet" with the Hydrocool first.

Now I can say that it was a great experience that I learned alot from.

Also, DD makes good products but they are not the only ones. The new Swiftech CPU block is excellent as well as the WhiteWater blocks.

But to make things easy for a first timer a Hydrokool is one of the absolute best! 15 minutes to setup and power on. Poof, You are watercooled. :cool:

[Pointhore]

Many suppliers will do the mods to cases for you. It will cost a couple of extra dollars but it's worth it. That is if you do not have the skills nor the tools to do the mods yourself. :thumbs:

Swiftech does make a very good block, so do the others. The only reason I mentioned the DD block is that the new swiftech cpu blocks are only 3/8" ID (tubing ends). The old swiftech blocks (mcw5000 I think) were/are very good and they had a real nice adapter to install on them so you could use 1/2" ID hose. I have a swiftechCpu and gpu block myself. I am not biased in any way towards DD. The choice is his not mine, it was only a suggestion. :rock:

I was just trying to save him some money in the long run. :yup: Not trying to discurage him in any way. We all have to start somewhere. :smash:

[pointreyes]

Not trying to discurage him in any way. We all have to start somewhere. :smash:

First we purchase a Prescott......:rolleyes:

Never thought I would be water cooling but all it took was a Prescott in a quiet system and !!!BOOM!!! - it's water cooling time. :D

[thesaucier]

You know water cooling is not that sientific. Basicalaly its just a jug of water with a pump to pump it to a waterblock that you can get of many makes. From there it goes to a cooling Radiator with fans. The back to the cpu. Its realy simple and should not be made difficult. Truely its that basic! It all about the parts after that!

[thesaucier]

Just to add I have a Nf7 that I have hooked up to a swiftech waterblock and a water pump I had from an old aquarium. The resovior was a plastic jug, The radiator was from Koolance for $14.00. All I wanted was a system to keep it to average temps for a sever. I added two 80 mm fans to the radiator that were of good cfm. The resualsts totaly suprized me!! at load with a 2000+
at 200 FSB @ 185 vcore at load was 38C. This is the truth!
My other system is at max but dont believe all you here about the best and greatest. You can do it its not that hard!!

[thesaucier]

The reason I say this is because a lot poeple think water cooling is hard its not! it very easy. Look into it closer and you will see that a cooling system put together by your self willl be the way to go. Dont be scared its not that hard. Just do the reserch. :thumbs:

[LostInSpace278]

I am wanting to go to water cooling in a short while, but I was thinking of mixing and matching my parts. Just a few questions though. The pumps are basically low gph aquarium pumps.
Would you need a bigger reservoir and/or a bigger radiator, if you went to a faster gph pump? My buddy has a 500 gph pump he wants to sell me, but I figured the water would move to fast through a normal system to be cooled. I told him I may have to get a chevette radiator and a couple of window fans to cool the fluid at those speeds. :rock: :rock:
Am I correct in my assumption?

[Moonwizard]

Yes and no. The more blocks you've the more restriction you'll have, which will render the water going slower. In the end. It's all the same. I doubt there will do any different to have a 500gph pump over a 200gph pump... The big advantage getting a smaller one with quite high gph is that it'll not heat the water itself as much as a big one would as it'll probably bli rated lower wattage output. :D Eheim 1048 is what I am using and it do 600l/h and it's enough for me and the output wattage is only 10W. And then take their big pump named 1060 which is equal to the pump you got offered is putting out as much as 50W... Mostly going directly to the water.. :(

[LostInSpace278]

Ahaaa, I see. Thankyou for the response.
I had seen one water cooloing system where the guy actually dug a trench in his backyard and ran the hose underground for cooling.
So, bigger pump, more heat. Got it!

[Moonwizard]

Yeah. :D

[Pointhore]

I had seen one water cooloing system where the guy actually dug a trench in his backyard and ran the hose underground for cooling.


A trench and 200ft of line! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: You better get a real good pump for that one. :bonk:
It's the same principal as a heat pump for home heating and A/C. Now that would be alot of work. :coocoo:

[BOB.LostSoul]

Ok guys thxs for the advice on go BIG () () or just stay home. One question what does DD mean{Pointhore}? Keri what r u doing with the old Corsair Hydrocool unit? Is it for sale? And if so what parts does it need to make it a bigger and better? I do plan on getting a cooler block for my V.C. and raid set up.

[Jim]

Ok guys thxs for the advice on go BIG () () or just stay home. One question what does DD mean{Pointhore}? Keri what r u doing with the old Corsair Hydrocool unit? Is it for sale? And if so what parts does it need to make it a bigger and better? I do plan on getting a cooler block for my V.C. and raid set up.

If I may: DD = Danger Den (http://www.dangerden.com/) :wave:

[RotorHead]

DD stands for Danger Den. They are in the PC water cooling business. :yup:

http://www.dangerden.com/

[RotorHead]

I'm not fast enough for Jim :lol: :lol:

[Jim]

I'm not fast enough for Jim :lol: :lol:

Heh, great minds think alike.
Wonder what they're thinking about right now. :scratch: :lol:

[BOB.LostSoul]

Am not going to say what I am thinking 8)