help please

[flexkill]

hi folk's i am new here just found the site.i would like to say first that i love my ocz's they rock!!! :thumb: my question is as you can see in my sig i have 4x512 stix of OCZ PC3200 performance series ram. i would like some tips from the experts here on what kind of over clock i can expect or if what i am getting is about it(see sig)i dont care about anything but speed i am hardcore gamer so dont care if timing's have to be backed off or whatever i just want more frames per second. i heard i should take 2 stix out and i will be faster is this true and if so that sux i paid alot of money for all this ram which i love.the best 1:1 timing i was able to achieve(and i'm probaly doing something wrong)was 219FSB@2.3.3.6 timings can i do better ,my board only go's to 2.85v for ram.somone please help!!!P.S. i hate being a noob...lol :bonk:

[Unregistered]

no worries, you are doing well already, your CPU is already at the edge unless you have really good cooling, the only other thing is to turn off the PAT settings in the BIOS but you may gain a bit in frequency and lose real performance..

[Hawk]

Flexkill, not bad for DDR 3200. Now to see what the real potential of the chip is do this:

Drop the memory speed to DDR333, from 400. ;)

Then up the FSB to 220 and see if it works. Keep going until the Machine locks. You should get to @230 with that CPU.

Then we need to play with the memory timings.

[flexkill]

thanx for the tips guys ,and hawk i have done this the highest FSB i have got with 5:4 divider is 235 with timings of 2.3.3.6 is this good and all i should expect?and also i wanted to ask duz OCZ still make the platinum 3500's because seeing that i am not going to get that high of a FSB probaly no higher than 235 maybe 240 if im lucky i was thinking of investing in some good 3500's and running 235FSB with tight timings isn't this a good thing or not and if OCZ duzn't make the plat 3500's anymore anyone have any suggestions?i ran sisoft sandra mem bandwidth test got like5160/5158 is this good but it also said i was only using 78% of bandwidth?any insight i would really appreciate thanx. :beer:

[flexkill]

oop's by the way my sig is wrong the mem was at 5:4not1:1 sorry.the highest i was able toget 1:1 was 219FSB with 2.5-3-3-6 timings also this was the setup when i ran sisoft sandra and got the result's i earlier mentioned... :bonk: changing sig now!!!

[LostInSpace278]

You should really look into the PC3500 EB (Enhanced Bandwidth) modules from OCZ. Read some of the testing that the guys from OCZ have been posting on the EB line.

[flexkill]

thanx lostinspace i will do that. :thumb:

[Hawk]

235FSB is not bad, now playing with the Vcore should get you to 240.

[flexkill]

ya i tried doing that but i dont think it's helping i think chip is maxxed, maybe somone here could help me with it give me some ideas to try? :thumb:

[flexkill]

hey hawk btw i noticed you have the same board as me(motherboard)and you have 1016 bios i have 1014 bios is this limiting my overclock or is 1014 fine? :?:

[Hawk]

1015 & 1016 are more for the Prescott. . . ;)

[flexkill]

ahhh thanx again didn't know that...well any way check this out. I took out 2 stix of my ram and got my fsb@240 5:4,2.2.3.5 timings thats the best i ever got!!! :eek: can anyone tell me why this happened duz going from 4 stix to 2 stix usually yield better performance and also(and this is really weird)it seems the lower i went with my cpu voltage the more fsb i gained!!!!whats up with that?is that normal?so how ironic is this,i get the highest oc i have ever had on this chip and my temps are the lowest ever idle@27c under load 32c :coocoo:

[Tony]

Running 4 modules add extra strain to the board and generally reduces the overclock headroom

[flexkill]

hey tony thanx for takin the time to respond,so maybe you could tell me, 1 gig of 3700 gold rev2, or 3500 eb?i was thinking 3500 eb because it duzn't look like i will be getting any further on air and thats as far as i go.so we are looking at about a 235 or 240 fsb, what ya think? :beer:

[OCZguy]

3500 Eb is the way to go :-)

[flexkill]

thanx ocz guy.i was thinking the 3500 eb too. :yup:

[Subsider]

FlexKill
Nice System and OC lets see if we can get some more :thumb: (3.7-8 would be nice ) pc3700 seem's to be ideal for the the 3.0 c or pc 4000 wich may be slightly overkill . I would hold out and get the new pc 3700 EB that should be out soon ! I agree with Hawk on the 1015 -1016 bios !Use 1014 and heres some bios settings you can try if you havent already .
loosen timmings up alittle once you max out your OC tighten them up till you have a problem also disable preformance Acceleration till you max out your OC then try Inabling it. Try core up to 1.675v and memmory up to 2.85
dram idle set to infinite
dram refresh mode to 7.8
disable sread spectrum and Ich delay
disable legacy usb support
disable configure dram timmings by SPD
and of course make sure Agp and pci freq. are locked 66/33

[flexkill]

holycow subsider,i don't know how to thank you enough, that was exactly the kind of info i needed. :bow: going to try it out, i will post back when finished,man thanx again :thumbs: big help!!! :thumb:

[flexkill]

well subside yur little setup worked great , i think i will be able to go much higher now but heat is bocoming a problem.i have a zalmon cpu cooler the one with the little plastic tube to direct air out but don't think it's working that good my temp are 30c idle shoots all the way up to 70c under full load. probaly would have went higher but i shut it down, do you think i should lap the heatsink and use arctic silver or just get a new cooler? :beat:

[Mikki]

flexkill, I don't know much about that heatsink but Artic Silver would certainly help. Lapping the heatsink could also help, it depends on whether that heatsink is worth the effort....tho I'm sure it would help also. Just remember to apply a paper-thin layer of AS, this is one of those "less is more" things....;)

You can also try mounting a case fan directly about your memory, this will undoubtably help also. You can use a fancy bracket, make a bracket or simply use plastic tie-straps (which I've done before).

HTH! :)

[Subsider]

cool glad it helped. Yes that will help but i would get a sp94 with a 92mm tornado and deff use as5 ! http://www.articsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm

oooo and make sure you cleen ALL of the old thermal pad ect. off ! :thumb:

[LostInSpace278]

I don't know that I would get a tornado to go with that. If you do you may want to get a fan controller. Its LOUD. That way you can turn it down when not under such a load and save on the ears.

[Subsider]

Im sorry but its simple do you want to cool your cpu or do you want it quiet ? A fan controller is fine for case fans but if you really need to quiet down a Tornado then you should use a modded molex connector ( resister ) to bring down to 9v any less than that you should just use a diff fan and your cpu may still get hot ! If you want the best preformance you need to use the best HS ans fan combo avail (sp94 & 92mm tornado ) It drives me crazy to see someone buy a tornado and then use a fan conroller , why did they bother in the first place ???? I have 3 pc's in the room im in right now loaded with 120 sunons and tornados , Music to my ears :rock: besides it helps me drownd out the Kids and the wife lol :na:

[flexkill]

thanx for all the help guy's ,well new egg here i come!!! :chit: