portable mp3 players

[govy]

looking for a portable mp3 player. something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, its for exercising with, so i'm not interested in a video screens and fancy smancy features.........i want load music, hit play, and away i go.

i've been looking and i've found the ipod shuffle 512 for $65.00, anybody know of any contenders that will beat it?

anyone have any experience with the shuffle 512/1gig?

[Disposibleteen]

My only gripe with the shuffle is that it has no screen so you cant see what song is going to play next. I guess that is part of the whole marketing scheme but i just dont like it. My brother just got one of those sandisk 512mb players for $50 at compusa and it doesnt sound the nest (not the worst either though). I would have to say that those are the best value for the money right now.

[Freak574]

Iriver T30

Iriver are simply the best MP3 Player. I had the IFP899 and now the U10. Unbeatable. Ipod is kiddystuff ^^

[govy]

i'm not interested in kiddystuff/adult stuff comments, if Iriver is the best, why are they the best???????????

considering what i'm looking for it for, exercising..........(i'm not a kid and am not going to be carrying it around showing it off to my friends) the shuffle is a lot smaller, and 30 dollars cheaper than the iriver, iriver out...............and if sandisk doesn't sound that good......then sandisk out.

[govy]

what about the creative zen nano, anyone play with one of those?

the more I read up on the shuffle, i'm not liking it............i don't like that I can't change the battery, and a lot of people are complaining about slow music transfer...........though it was reviewed as having some of the best sound.

[BB_One]

Look around I know one member here as a Zen comment under his name can't recall who. And also seen help request I believe for Zen - hence could ask for feedback from them...

[Freak574]

i'm not interested in kiddystuff/adult stuff comments, if Iriver is the best, why are they the best???????????

considering what i'm looking for it for, exercising..........(i'm not a kid and am not going to be carrying it around showing it off to my friends) the shuffle is a lot smaller, and 30 dollars cheaper than the iriver, iriver out...............and if sandisk doesn't sound that good......then sandisk out.

ure going on like a kiddy thats all :coocoo:

simply

much firmware upgrades with new functions ( in addition to the avaiable functions ) / bug fixes
high usability
very good soundprocessors, very good equalizers
high runtime ( like its printed on the paper, not like apple with there fake runtime )
stable cases with an Appropriately scratch-resistent surface