Barton 2500+ AQXDA - What kind of O/C can I expect?

[JayisunJ]

Hey, I posted this question on another forum with thousands of members and I got NO response. Hopefully you guys can help me out. I have a Barton 2500+ AQXDA 0320mpmw processor that I bought off of newegg.com for my brother. It will be awhile before we can assemble his rig (haven't ordered all parts yet), but what kind of overclock can we expect if the only bottleneck is the processor itself (not RAM, motherboard, PSU)? Are AQXDA's the same model number as the newer 3200+'s? Anybody know anything about the 0320's? Thank you in advance. :cool:

[compudog]

You should be able to get the AQXDA to at least 2.0. I had mine up there today with the AMD retail cooler. Temps were a little high (52C), so I set things back to stock until my swiftech MCX comes in. My system was stable and I didn't have to bump any voltages. With good cooling, maybe 2.2 or beyond. YMMV...:rolleyes:

[JayisunJ]

Thanks for the reply dog! I got an SLK-800(A) heatsink with an Thermaltake SmartFan II on the way so cooling shouldn't be a problem. 2.2 Ghz with 200 FSB would be great. Especially with the larger level 2 cache. My brother is gonna love his comp. Can't wait to finish it so I can play it... err I mean test it out!

[DAPUNISHER]

I'll be damned surprised if it doesn't do 3200+ speed on less than 1.7v

[JayisunJ]

Wow, 3200+ at 1.7V or less would be very ideal. Thanks for you input Dapunisher. Hopefully it can do that or even better. I am getting anxious now! :)

[compudog]

OK, what do you think? I have a Swiftech MCXC370 on the way and an 80 mm 27CFM fan on the way. If I slap that baby on my 2500+, what OC should I try first?

[JayisunJ]

Hey Compudog! Hope your 27 CFM fan can push the heat off of your heatsink fast enough. My cheap Thermaltake Smartfan II pushes 75 CFM @ 4800 RPM so maybe you should consider upgrading your fan? I think a good starting goal for your 2500+ should be hitting 2 GHz w/ a 200 MHz FSB. See how far you can push it at default voltage. When the brono starts to buck, give her more juice and slowly ^ the voltage. At least that is what I am going to do! Good luck Compudog.

[compudog]

Ooooops! I meant to type 47CFM fan! I'm not looking for quiet, but I don't need excess noise either. I have good exchange through my case (Chieftec Aero) 2 80mm's in front and 2 80 mm's in back with fairly balanced flow and no dead spots.

[JayisunJ]

Sounds like your CPU/Heatsink is getting air from all angles. Good circulation and a TON of 80mm fans. I got three. One on my side door, one on the front, and one on the heatsink! My Computer is pretty loud I can't even imagine yours unless they are really low RPM fans. My computer is in the basement though, so it stays pretty cool no matter what. I think you are %100 percent ready to overclock. Keep me updated. My brothers rig won't be together for another couple weeks so I will have to share in your anticipation/excitement. Good luck! :D

[JayisunJ]

Hey compudog, how did overclocking your new Barton go?! I hope it went well cause our steppings are pretty similar. Keep me posted dude. :cool:

[compudog]

Unfortunately I haven't done anything yet. My MCX has not arrived, but my lapped OEM is working just fine. I have not had the time and have too many projects going on to even think of tinkering with it. I will definitely post results once I get going. Possibly this week, maybe as early as tomorrow (6/17) evening.

[JayisunJ]

Hey compudog, I got my brothers rig all assembled and it ROCKS at stock speeds. I was able to overclock the graphics card (9700 Pro) quite a bit, but the 2500+ will not hit 200 FSB or even 195 FSB. It won't go any higher then 1.9 GHz either. I am pretty bummed about that. I tired bumping Vcore, Vdd, Vdimm, tried relaxed mem timings, single stick configs, everything. It won't overclock worth a crap. O well. I still love the rig. Peace. :(

[shimmishim]

I got mine up to 2.4 ghz @ 1.81 volts

it's a beauty but runs a little warm even for my water setup...

45C's 100% load with seti@home...

argh...

but can't complain about the speed.. :)

[compudog]

UPS lost my MCX cooler. :beat: I have another one on it's way, but I'm looking at water cooling this 2500+. I think I got a good one because it's done some nice things on air and is staying decently cool. I am not concerned about noise at all, so I need to look at some water cooling setups. I already have tubing, Eheim pump. I just need the water block and radiator, but I think I may do a little fabbing and make an external unit. Hmmm... so many possiblities. Naturally details will follow...

[JayisunJ]

I got mine up to 2.4 ghz @ 1.81 volts I ALWAYS get the crap of all crap when it comes to overclocking. You are one lucky dude to have a "Barton" at 2.4 GHz. The power must be mind boggling. And it looks like you have air cooling too unless I am mistaken. Wanna trade? :D

[pointreyes]

Originally posted by JayisunJ
I ALWAYS get the crap of all crap when it comes to overclocking. You are one lucky dude to have a "Barton" at 2.4 GHz. The power must be mind boggling. And it looks like you have air cooling too unless I am mistaken. Wanna trade? :D

Can you believe that I have two, yes two, nForce2 machines with the XP2500 and yet I'm not oc'ing them. They are so fast without oc'ing. These are great procs. Just wish they didn't have temps approaching a Pally core proc. :(

[JayisunJ]

Can you believe that I have two, yes two, nForce2 machines with the XP2500 and yet I'm not oc'ing them. They are so fast without oc'ing. These are great procs. Just wish they didn't have temps approaching a Pally core proc. Yea, the temps can get a little ridiculous sometimes. Mine idles at 35, but after playing GTA 3 or Morrowind it can get as high as 47. That is with an SLK-800A and an 80mm fan blowing 75 CFM of air on it. But, the temps in my house (upstairs) are pretty high in the summer so that could be partly to blame. The 2500+ is a genuine bargain for under $100. The extra L2 cache really improves performance noticably. I might have my brother order another just to try our luck again though. :wave:

[pointreyes]

Well, with one of my Bartons which now resides in the Shuttle was originally tested on my A7N8x-I was easily able to get the Barton to 200fsb on default vcore. But I did not like the temps at all. The XMS3500 sticks I have in my Canterwood are getting transferred to the A7N8x, maybe I will see what happens with these on the other Barton.

[shimmishim]

temps are a little ridiculous i'll have to agree on that one....

i had a 1700+ @ 2.5 ghz and it ran around 43C's and this is only running 2.4 ghz and its running up to 46C's

[pointreyes]

Well, I just tried the other Barton and it to oc'ed to 200fsb very easily. What sensor do you use on MBM for measuring the proc's temps? My procs are measuring 51~52C when idling. I checked the bios and the temps are also 51~52C. It's 75F in my house at this time.

[JayisunJ]

Well, I just tried the other Barton and it to oc'ed to 200fsb very easily. What sensor do you use on MBM for measuring the proc's temps? My procs are measuring 51~52C when idling. I checked the bios and the temps are also 51~52C. It's 75F in my house at this time. I just go into the BIOS and check the idle temps there. I use Soltek's Hardware Monitor (included on CD) for checking temps under load. They seem to be pretty consistent with other systems I have built. I have alot of 80mm case fans too though.

[compudog]

Mine is running currently at 52C at full load. I have the multi @ 12.5 with the FSB @ 166 for 2800+ using the retail HSF. I don't think my MCX will ever get here.

[JayisunJ]

You should be able to get a tracking number if you used UPS or Fed-Ex. It will get there one way or another. I hate waiting for parts too. :mad:

[compudog]

This HSF is actually a replacement for the first one the UPS lost. It shold have been here 3 days ago. It has been sitting at the same center (according to the tracking) as the first one, for three days. Tomorrow I am going to call the UPS 800 cust service number and get an explanation.

[JayisunJ]

This HSF is actually a replacement for the first one the UPS lost. It shold have been here 3 days ago. It has been sitting at the same center (according to the tracking) as the first one, for three days. Tomorrow I am going to call the UPS 800 cust service number and get an explanation. LOL. UPS is a joke sometimes. I had a package once sit at a shipping center 10 miles from my house for a week and a half. I was half tempted to just go up to the shipping center, bust down the door, grab my package, and march proudly back to my house. I think it might have been patially due to the fact that our UPS man is scared of our dog. He was prolonging the ineveitable. Now I am training my dog to attack the color brown. That'll teach him. :D

[compudog]

It wouldn't be so bad if it was my local UPS center as I have never had a prob picking anything up there. This center is at the airport location and it has yet to be routed to a truck to the local distubution center. I don't know if someone I may have p*ssed off is working there or what. Two packages, from the same vendor, stuck at the same center. Like I said, I will call UPS tomorrow and get it squared away.

[compudog]

Got the MCX cooler on Monday after calling UPS and asking WTF?!?! Anyway, no real explanation was given. I started having troubles with FSB speeds above 174MHz. Probably RAM. I am fiddling with it Pulling out 1 512 stick of Mushkin. and see where that gets me.

[JayisunJ]

FINALLY! LOL. At least you got it. I am sure you can get much better results. It probably is your RAM. Keep us up-to-date!

[XJ.]

Just saw this thread....

I have an XP2500+ @ 2.4GHz (needs ~1.90-1.95v, still breaking it in). Won't hit 2.5GHz...yet, which is odd since it can do 2.2Ghz @ default voltage :scratch:

It's an AQXDA 320MPM. I'm running an FSB of 217(433)Mhz, which is the max my DDR can do (without looser timings). This is on an Abit NF7-S v2.0 bios 1.6. It does run hot, I'm hitting 43C full load with H2O cooling and ambient air temp of 24C. This is about 5C hotter than my TBredB @2.4GHz :eek: *

I'm hoping that after breaking it in, I can get this puppy up to 2.5Ghz...

* Oops, just noticed that I have the voltage dialed up to 2.0v to burn it in, so that temp is a bit higher that it would normally be.

Edit: typos

[JayisunJ]

Hey thanks for the info XJ. My mobo won't let me take the voltage over 1.85 so I am kind of limited, but I don't like to run the voltage much over 1.775 anyway. I just ordered a Barton 2500+ for MY comp (other Barton was for brothers) from newegg. Hope I get a good stepping. Will post when it get here :)

[XJ.]

I haven't checked the data sheet on Barton CPUs, but TBredBs had a max vCore of 2.05v - I'm assuming that Barton is about the same, so running at 1.85v shouldn't be a problem at all. I wouldn't really push the limits long term unless I was using a Prometeia or the like. I'll stick to a max of 1.95v after burning it in for 72 hours.

[JayisunJ]

Got Barton 2500+ today. Very strange stepping it seems. AQUCA 0323 TPMW. Will install it tonight. Any of you guys heard of this particular stepping? Wish me luck lol. :D

[XJ.]

Hmm, I've seen the "AQUCA " part b/4. But not the "TPMW". Good luck!

[compudog]

After tinkering around with all sorts on my Barton 2500, I have been able to maintain a "somewhat" stable FSB of 185 MHz with a multi of 12.5 for 2220 MHz.

Memory
2.5-3-3-7

That's the best with what I got. I may get some OCZ 3200. My wife and I were discussing an upgrade for me (and for her, as she always gets my "old" stuff) in the fall, so I may just sit tight 'till then.

Who knows? Maybe a new Athlon64 rig in November for me!!

[XJ.]

Originally posted by compudog
My wife and I were discussing an upgrade for me (and for her, as she always gets my "old" stuff) in the fall, so I may just sit tight 'till then.

LOL :lol: I do the same exact thing :D

[JayisunJ]

Well guys. This chip looks to be a good one. 200 MHz FSB (400DDR) @ 2.3GHz @ 1.825 V core so far. Might try for higher tommorow @ 1.85 V core. I love AMD. The processor cost $90 RETAIL. :wave:

[JayisunJ]

Hey update! I decided that 1.85 Vcore wasn't satisfactory to me so I backed it down to 2.2 GHz and 1.75 Vcore. Runs at 42 degrees under full load now :)

[DAPUNISHER]

Very nice! :cool:

[mike11973]

you guys should try a mobile barton for overclocking.