Amd64 3000+ / An50r

[eva2000]

I just setup my first ever AMD system using AN50R and boy it's hot - could also be the fact that room temp in Brissy is really hot too

AMD64 3000+ + Venus 12 w\AS5 applied 12hrs ago
Shuttle AN50R rev1.3 latest official bios
128MB Gigacube 9600PRO stock
1x 512MB OCZ PC3500 Plat LE
550W Antec TrueControl PSU

vcore, chipset, vAGP all AUTO and vdimm = 2.9v

room temp: 32.5 - 33.8C

cpu idle: 41 - 44C
cpu load: 50 - 52C

mb idle: 34 - 35C
mb load: 36 - 38C

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/cpuz1.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/prime95_2.jpg

Super Pi 1m (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/superpi-1m.jpg)

Super Pi 16m (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/superpi-16m.jpg)

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/pcmark2002.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/pcmark04.jpg

128MB Gigacube 9600PRO @ stock

3dmark2001 SE
http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/3dmark2001_9600pro_stock.jpg

3dmark2003
http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/3dmark2003_9600pro_stock.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/cpu.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/cpu-media.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc3500plat/1x512/200-200-2226-AUTO-2.9v-AUTO-AUTO-AUTO/mem-buff.jpg

[pointreyes]

It is nothing unusal for an AMD proc to have only around 10~15C difference between idle and full load.

BTW: Your room temp is what my 2.6c oc'ed to 3.25 temp is right now. :p

[eva2000]

lol... yup roasty room temps sure make oc'ing fun heh

[Mikki]

Jeez eva, how can you stand that?!!! :p My room hits 25c and I'm outta there...:p

Nice rig ya got there...I got a 64 3200+ coming my way....:D

[pointreyes]

Originally posted by Mikki
Nice rig ya got there...I got a 64 3200+ coming my way....:D

Nice. I'm down to just two AMD procs. :wack:

2 Opterons
2 P4 Northwoods
1 Celered Northwood
1 P4 Prescott

However, I'm a stickin' to my guns-only AMD and Intel chipset boards are being used.

[shimmishim]

how come you set LDT to 2.5x?

why didn't you leave it at 3.0?

how do i know this?

i'm pyschic!!

at least for super pi

[eva2000]

LDT 3x doesn't seem to work with 2-2-2-6 timings with OCZ PC3500 Plat LE BH-5 stick as pc doesn't boot

[eva2000]

finally AS5 paste seems to have settled in some and with LDT voltage at 1.5v I can now use LDT 3X with HTT = 220 x 10

room temp = 31.1 - 33.4C right now

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/220-220-2226-1.55v-2.9v-1.5v-A-A/prime95_1hr23min.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/220-220-2226-1.55v-2.9v-1.5v-A-A/prime95_1hr23min_mem.jpg

[shimmishim]

nice!

yeah there are no bios options to adjust the last two timings for the memory.... just determines it by itself...

when i use the divider, it shows up as 2-2-2-5-10-16

or else its usually 2-2-2-6-11-16

guess it depends on the ram as well...

mickeymouse over at xtreme says in general most bh-5's should show up as 2-2-2-6 ...

[eva2000]

Originally posted by shimmishim
nice!

yeah there are no bios options to adjust the last two timings for the memory.... just determines it by itself...

when i use the divider, it shows up as 2-2-2-5-10-16

or else its usually 2-2-2-6-11-16

guess it depends on the ram as well...

mickeymouse over at xtreme says in general most bh-5's should show up as 2-2-2-6 ... so you going by SPD/AUTO for timings or setting them manually ?

[eva2000]

some super pi action
Super Pi 2M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/220-220-2226-1.55v-2.9v-1.5v-A-A/superpi-2m.jpg)

Super Pi 16M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/220-220-2226-1.55v-2.9v-1.5v-A-A/superpi-16m.jpg)

Super Pi 32M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/220-220-2226-1.55v-2.9v-1.5v-A-A/superpi-32m.jpg)

[shimmishim]

all my mem timings are left on auto! :)

[eva2000]

ah i see :)

well i broke my 9600pro 3dmark record easily!

P4 2.4C@3616mhz ram 3:2 = 15,014
AMD64 3000+ @2250mhz ram 1:1 = 15,187

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7551041 :cool:

[shimmishim]

now do the vdimm mod and let your ram fly!!! :)

[eva2000]

Originally posted by shimmishim
now do the vdimm mod and let your ram fly!!! :) if only i knew how to soldier or mod the board.. probably get someone locally to do it for me :o

seems AMD64 has a 1.35ghz lead on P4 system in certain benchies

i.e.

AMD64 @ 2000MHZ = ~P4 3.35GHZ
AMD64 @ 2250MHZ = ~P4 3.6GHZ
AMD64 @ 2400MHZ = ~P4 3.75GHZ

[eva2000]

@ 225 HTT x10
1:1 ram @ 225mhz 2-2-2-6

buffered
http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/225-225-2226-1.65v-2.9v-1.5-A-A/mem-buff.jpg

unbuffered
http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/225-225-2226-1.65v-2.9v-1.5-A-A/mem-unbuff.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/225-225-2226-1.65v-2.9v-1.5-A-A/cpu.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/225-225-2226-1.65v-2.9v-1.5-A-A/cpu-media.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/225-225-2226-1.65v-2.9v-1.5-A-A/pcmark2002-9600pro_481-360.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/225-225-2226-1.65v-2.9v-1.5-A-A/ut2003_9600pro_481-360.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/225-225-2226-1.65v-2.9v-1.5-A-A/superpi-2m.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-3/225-225-2226-1.65v-2.9v-1.5-A-A/superpi-16m.jpg

[eva2000]

unstable high latency fun LOL

AMD64 3000+ @ 274.5MHZ x 8.5
1:1
LDT 2.5x

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/pcmark2002.jpg

Super Pi 2M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/superpi-2m.jpg) = 1min 29s
Super Pi 32M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/superpi-32m.jpg) = 33min 29s

Sandra 2004 SP1 Buffered (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/mem-buff.jpg) = 3976/3975
Sandra 2004 SP1 Unbuffered (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/mem-unbuff.jpg) = 2261/2296

Aida32 3.90 Read (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/aida-read.jpg) = 3934MB/s
Aida32 3.90 Write (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/aida-write.jpg) = 1521MB/s

Sandra 2004 SP1 CPU (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/cpu.jpg) = 10,174 / (3701/4846)
Sandra 2004 SP1 CPU Media (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/cpu-media.jpg) = 22347 / 24029

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/sciencemark.jpg

[eva2000]

full set of superpi runs

Super Pi 1M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/superpi-1m.jpg) = 38s
Super Pi 2M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/superpi-2m.jpg) = 1min 29s
Super Pi 4M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/superpi-4m.jpg) = 3min 13s
Super Pi 8M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/superpi-8m.jpg) = 6min 59s
Super Pi 16M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/superpi-16m.jpg) = 15min 32s
Super Pi 32M (http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/LDT-25/OCZ/pc4400/8.5x/274-274-3448-1.7v-2.9v-1.5v-AA/superpi-32m.jpg) = 33min 29s

:cool:

[eva2000]

strange i just tried 256MB ADATA PC4000 and even at 200mhz 3-4-4-8 with 2.9v vdimm it isn't stable - superpi errors out! WTF... swap it for 512MB OCZ PC4400 and it's fine at same speed, timings and vdimm

i'm 200% sure ADATA PC4000 aren't faulty, guess AN50R doesn't like ADATA PC4000. sort of maybe proves ADATA PC4000 isn't using Hynix D43 chips like OCZ PC4400 and Hynix PC3200 does

[eva2000]

well i just swapped out my 9600pro and put in my 9800pro xtreme and changed to win2k and get 20k 3dmark2001 at stock video card and cpu speed :)

win2k is ALOT faster and windows now feels snappy, winxp with A64 was kind of laggy..

[pastorjay]

Very nice results eva. I am looking like I might get me a shuttle just to see how she goes. May even have SHim do the mods for me... hehe

[shimmishim]

:)

still recovering.... will do the vcore mod soon to push this chip to 2600 mhz... just need to get my memory up to 260.... that'd be sweet!!! :)

[eva2000]

Originally posted by shimmishim
:)

still recovering.... will do the vcore mod soon to push this chip to 2600 mhz... just need to get my memory up to 260.... that'd be sweet!!! :) that would be one fast system by then :)

[Phoenixofwater]

Originally posted by eva2000
unstable high latency fun LOL

AMD64 3000+ @ 274.5MHZ x 8.5

How are you able to run at a FSB of 274.5?
Does the Shuttle AN50R have PCI/AGP lock?
I didn't think any of the AMD64 have PCI/AGP lock

[eva2000]

Originally posted by Phoenixofwater
How are you able to run at a FSB of 274.5?
Does the Shuttle AN50R have PCI/AGP lock?
I didn't think any of the AMD64 have PCI/AGP lock using clockgen in windows :)

[Phoenixofwater]

Originally posted by eva2000
using clockgen in windows :)

so, what about the PCI/AGP speeds?
also, how are you likeing the AMD 64. I'm thinking about geting one with a mobo base on the VIA chipset

[DAPUNISHER]

These AN50R's are a fine boards :) I'm able to run stable&solid 2.4ghz@1.65v 6:5 *2 512mb sticks of crap ram* The SOYO K8USA wouldn't even boot past 233fsb and the Ali POS SATA controller wouldn't detect the Raptor I bought. where as the Shuttle will boot to windows at the BIOS limit of 250 *haven't bothered with ClockGen* even though my CPU needs more voltage than 1.7 to run stable at that speed. So far the lower HT speed hasn't shown any negative effect given my usage either. I'm not planning to volt mod like Shim, about the only thing on my list is better ram so I can run 1:1 at high speeds.

[eva2000]

well i just put in a stick of 256MB KHX3200 BH-5 from dual channel kit and with no mods to AN50R board still i can do 9.5 x 235mhz 2-2-2-6 at 2.9v vdimm = 2233mhz

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000/Kingston/KHX3200/256/2x256/pair_2/LDT2.5/9.5/235-235-2226-1.7-2.9-AUTO-1.5LDT/prime95_1.jpg

gonna get a friend to mod my AN50R soon hehe

[shimmishim]

good to hear the word "mod" once in a while :)

i'm running 9 x 289 but with the 5:6 divider

[eva2000]

well this setup has allowed me to hit 23,800 3dmark2001s!

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7737897

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3000_win2k/Kingston/KHX3200/256/2x256/pair_2/LDT3/225-225-2226-1.7-2.9-1.6-1.5LDT/ramsinks/dx8.1_cat3.7/3Dmark2001_9800pro_xtr_488-405_23800.jpg

[shimmishim]

23,800 that's it??!?

:)

actually with my 9700pro, i was able to hit 22,963!

i'm sure if you could get a higher clockspeed, you could easily break 25k.

[eva2000]

amd64 3200+ has a 300-600 pts advantage over amd64 3000+ at same speeds heh