Athlon duallie. Which would be the most realiable?

[pointreyes]

Since my IWill MPX2 died, I need to consider a replacement board. There are only two boards that are available for me to get ASAP.

Tyan Tiger MPX (S2466)
Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P

Overclocking - no
Onboard drive controller is a complete waste, not needed at all.
Using an ATX12V PSU which both boards support.

NIC - I have to get a Gigabit NIC so the Megabit NICs on the boards are rather useless.

Does anyone know if either of these boards are considered a bad choice?

[pointreyes]

Nevermind. I'm parting out the system. Down to only one duallie now. :sad:

[Ghostrider]

Originally posted by pointreyes
Nevermind. I'm parting out the system. Down to only one duallie now. :sad:

If I remember right you chose the Tyan... it's a good choice - I am verry happy with that board.

[eva2000]

my tyan dual AthlonMP 2466 IIRC for hosting died just 2-3 weeks ago, waiting on replacement - so right now my own forums and sites are completely down :(

[pointreyes]

Originally posted by eva2000
my tyan dual AthlonMP 2466 IIRC for hosting died just 2-3 weeks ago, waiting on replacement - so right now my own forums and sites are completely down :(

I will be getting a Tyan S2466N-4M on Monday. What caused the death of your Tyan? I got this Tyan for the 3 Year warranty that I hope I never have to use. Blasted IWill died almost on it's one year anniversary. :mad: Not very happy with IWill. Right now I'm using a FIC D865Dynasty (now, how many have heard of that board :p ) with a P4 3.0c for the file server. The 3Ware RAID5 is about 20Meg/sec slower on that Springdale.

[buildabear]

100% tyan. Most Stable boards on the planet IMHO

[Ghostrider]

Originally posted by pointreyes
I will be getting a Tyan S2466N-4M on Monday. What caused the death of your Tyan? I got this Tyan for the 3 Year warranty that I hope I never have to use. Blasted IWill died almost on it's one year anniversary. :mad: Not very happy with IWill. Right now I'm using a FIC D865Dynasty (now, how many have heard of that board :p ) with a P4 3.0c for the file server. The 3Ware RAID5 is about 20Meg/sec slower on that Springdale.

I'd like to know it, too... What killed the Tyan board?!
What killed your board, Pointreyes?

Some good advice: Don't OC with the Tyan S2466 board. I did it with my Corsair TwinX from the Opteron while I was waiting for the RMA of my K8W... :( ... I just wanted to know if it would be stable at FSB 150. I don't like OCing. It should just be a short test...
With the old PC2100 memory I could not boot at FSB 146 but thought that it would be the onboard IDE-controller that makes trouble. So I tried it with the new memory at FSB 150... everything was working fine! No problems. But now the bad thing: After running that board at FSB 133 again I get some strange behaviour:
The Tyan system monitor is unable to detect the board. If I raise the FSB again to 140 or above it detects the board again.
I don't know what has happened but something seems to be different.


Something offtopic @Pointreyes:

You know that I have the 3Ware 7850... 3Ware recommends to use the 7500 Bios and drivers.
Should I try to use the 7506 drivers and Bios??? ... it could speed up the card to 66MHz instead of the 33MHz. I am not sure what they changed between the cards - but I assume that the cards are identically the same.

[eva2000]

no idea what killed mine.. i suspect maybe a power surge or something in the datacenter at NAC.net ???

parts died one by one over a span of Dec 2003 - Feb 2004

first 1x AthlonMP 2000+ died due to fan failing taking the cpu with it, then onboard scis controller died, taking 2 scsi drives and 1x IDE drive to heaven, and now the whole board dies

[buildabear]

Originally posted by eva2000
no idea what killed mine.. i suspect maybe a power surge or something in the datacenter at NAC.net ???

parts died one by one over a span of Dec 2003 - Feb 2004

first 1x AthlonMP 2000+ died due to fan failing taking the cpu with it, then onboard scis controller died, taking 2 scsi drives and 1x IDE drive to heaven, and now the whole board dies

Looks like the overheating/killing of the cpu caused all the other problems, if I were a betting man...

[pointreyes]

Originally posted by Ghostrider
What killed your board, Pointreyes?

Something offtopic @Pointreyes:

You know that I have the 3Ware 7850... 3Ware recommends to use the 7500 Bios and drivers.
Should I try to use the 7506 drivers and Bios??? ... it could speed up the card to 66MHz instead of the 33MHz. I am not sure what they changed between the cards - but I assume that the cards are identically the same.

I think the IWill MPX2 I had was a bad board for the beginning but did not realize it until recently. :( Basically, the board always had a problem with powering up that required me to reset the CMOS or fully disconnect the power cord from the PSU. Sometimes the board would fire up with seeing only one proc instead of both and these are MP2400-not modded XP procs. Since I rarely turned off the computer I normally did not get to concerned but this last time I swapped video cards to test a theory and that was it. The board never booted up ever again.

I have no intention of oc'ing with the Tyan. I think 4Ghz of processing power is good enough. ;)

Regarding the 3Ware controller-I won't take the risk. The 66Mhz would be nice but I believe that is hardwired in the construction of the controller-not by the firmware. If it was a simple firmware solution, I don't believe 3Ware would not have taken so long to finally provide 66Mhz cards.

[Tony]

set the onboard jumpers to 100fsb and i bet the mpx2 boots up..I have had the same issues with multipliers not been read correctly.

[pointreyes]

Originally posted by Tony
set the onboard jumpers to 100fsb and i bet the mpx2 boots up..I have had the same issues with multipliers not been read correctly.

Hmmm, I will check that out before I install the Tyan board. But why is 100fsb needed? These are not modded procs and I have used only default settings on this board. And does this mean that I lose 33fsb on the board which thereby reduces the speed of my MP2400s? :confused:

[pointreyes]

Well it appears that the processors are bad. So now here I'm stuck with a Tyan and IWill board. Probably will need to return the Tyan board with a restocking fee plus the NIC that I don't need in any other board and until I get AMD to take care of the procs I will not know if the IWill is dead or not.

This is 100% FRUSTRATING!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

So how did I figure this out?
1) Tyan board would not boot with both procs.
2) Tyan board would boot with one proc.
3) IWill board would not boot with even one proc. Thought that might have proved that the IWill board was dead but....
4) Tyan board would boot with one proc but keyboard was dead, dead, dead, dead in the bios.

Arrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

[SLM crew chief]

Sounds like a mess Bud. :( Hope you get it all sorted out. I'm looking forward to hearing how that "new" network ROCKS!

[eva2000]

Originally posted by pointreyes
Well it appears that the processors are bad. So now here I'm stuck with a Tyan and IWill board. Probably will need to return the Tyan board with a restocking fee plus the NIC that I don't need in any other board and until I get AMD to take care of the procs I will not know if the IWill is dead or not.

This is 100% FRUSTRATING!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

So how did I figure this out?
1) Tyan board would not boot with both procs.
2) Tyan board would boot with one proc.
3) IWill board would not boot with even one proc. Thought that might have proved that the IWill board was dead but....
4) Tyan board would boot with one proc but keyboard was dead, dead, dead, dead in the bios.

Arrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: ouch this and my experience with AthlonMP have put me off them :(

[pointreyes]

Originally posted by eva2000
ouch this and my experience with AthlonMP have put me off them :(

This $60 mistake (restocking fee and returning hardware) has ready ticked me off. I will now probably just have AMD replace the procs and then I'm selling them.

[Xploited Titan]

Aouch, I was ready to get some bi-processing platform (exchange of hardware), but now I'm reconsidering... :(

It's a chaintech 7kdd mobo with 2 MP1800+...

[pointreyes]

Aouch, I was ready to get some bi-processing platform (exchange of hardware), but now I'm reconsidering... :(

It's a chaintech 7kdd mobo with 2 MP1800+...

For how much? I sold my IWill MPX2 with 2 MP2400 procs for $300. The MP1800 procs are hardly worth anything anymore.

[Ghostrider]

Regarding the 3Ware controller-I won't take the risk. The 66Mhz would be nice but I believe that is hardwired in the construction of the controller-not by the firmware. If it was a simple firmware solution, I don't believe 3Ware would not have taken so long to finally provide 66Mhz cards.

I took a closer look to the BIOS-images... it's the same file for both types. The download link points at the same location. So I can't flash anything wrong.