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Duvie
06-03-2003, 06:49 PM
recently I have been jumping heavy into DVD authoring software...I started simple with one menu and a couple of links to detailed animated menus and submenus with tons of interactivity. I have gone from little no editing and manipulation of audio and video clips to all sorts of special effects and tweaking.


The programs I have tried....

1) Pinnacle studio 8 (upgraded to 8.5)
2) Sonic's MyDVD pro 4
3) Intervideo's Winproducer and Encoder
4) Ulead studio version 6


They all have their quirks and advantages, but one thing I have to state is that most all are quite buggy and require frequent trips to user forums to work through issues.

Sonic's Mydvd is the least professional quality out of all of them with very simplified approach and very little room to screw up. In response it tends to have the least options and border on the cheesy. I think the program can be had for 30-40 dollars, but it is more famous for being bundled with certain Pioneer and Cendyne DVD-rw drives....The program is easy to follow with the tutorials but is full of bugs and glitches..i recommend having all clips located in 3 specified folders as shown in the guides. also keep clips on same drive that is well defragged. Gltiches happen when the preview button is applied with animated clip buttons I found. Also if the clips are strewn about their is more likely a chance it will give a DVDerr code during the writing to file or disk....

Overall I give it C+....for beginners I give it a solid B....


Pinnacles software is far more professional and I believe retails right around 100 dollars. ease of use is not quite there as it does take some playing around to figure some stuff out. Once you get the hang of it the functionality is encredible. Think of some of the best menus you have seen in commercial DVDs and this can nearly be attained. It was bundled with Hollywood FX which has some very sweet transition features to give it even more of a flare. The more complexed the system the bigger the bugs. MOst of my bugs were fixed with the upgradin g to the 8.5 version...However I have noticed that when mpeg2 clips are brought in if they are not in 48000khz mode the program will transcode it into the m2v file and the wav file. If it is in 48000khz file it does not have this happen. The problem is that it does a horrible job and usually leaves audio pops. this may be soundcard related but in all other programs I could not duplicate it with same file in same 44000khz mode. So make sure when you capture mpeg2 clips that you stop and think if this is going to be used in DVD authoring...If so definitely make sure it is 48000khz....

Overall I give the program a solid B...For beginners I give it a C


I wil add the others later.....

Too be continued....

oldfart
06-03-2003, 07:21 PM
I use Studio 8. I actually find it very easy to use. The learning curve was pretty short. The capture and editing tools are great. Its very easy to cut/insert/move clips on the storyboard. Rendering time could be a little better. I got mine for $5 after MIR (Anandtech hot deals).:rock:

Duvie
06-03-2003, 07:42 PM
Have you upgraded to version 8.5 yet???

I agree ease of use didn't take long to achieve with some playing around, but I bet I am not even using 5% of its capabilities...

I too love the ability to trim files without having to physically trim them and reencode. Files ran abit long!!! No problem....


As for the rendering I quite agree...the rant even on the forum boards is that it always reencodes it at making disc time eventhough my files are captured and encoded mpeg2 files to DVD specs of 720x480 with 6-8mbits of VBR and 48000khz audio. NO editing yet it takes so long like it rerendering when it shouldn't have to.

oldfart
06-03-2003, 07:57 PM
Yeah, running 8.5.21. I use it mainly for capturing movies from my DV camcorder. They start out as an AVI, so I have to render to MPEG2 anyway. Edit it up and make a DVD movie. I use Nero to do the actual DVD burn. I also use it to make smaller Windows Media movies that I can email out. It does a nice job with that as well. Studio 8 does not do VBR AFAIK.

Duvie
06-03-2003, 07:57 PM
The capturing leaves something to be desired....I can capture at highest settnigs with ATI's MMC and yet use less cpu utilization and have no dropped frames or audio synch issues....

I had to tweak a bit to get it to not drop so many frames....

What is up???

I can capture better with ulead video studio....It must be something with the program...I guess it is back to pinnacle's forums cause I remember many posts on audio synch and dropped frames. Modern cpus and ATA 100 drives should not have any dropped frames.

Duvie
06-03-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by oldfart
Yeah, running 8.5.21. I use it mainly for capturing movies from my DV camcorder. They start out as an AVI, so I have to render to MPEG2 anyway. Edit it up and make a DVD movie. I use Nero to do the actual DVD burn. I also use it to make smaller Windows Media movies that I can email out. It does a nice job with that as well. Studio 8 does not do VBR AFAIK.


I think you are right about the VBR as their is no option for it. Most VBR encoding is only recommended for multiple passes anyways and that rules out on the fly capturing. I have done VBR with ati's MMC and it does fine in pinnacle and no different then when I do CBR. VBR files are not as welcomed with ulead studio as I have had some issues (again that buggy stuff). If I recapture with CBR I have no issues.

oldfart
06-03-2003, 08:13 PM
I capture via firewire :rock: Analog capture is a real PITA.:beat: Audio sync is always an issue with analog capture. The analog file sizes are huge too. A 1 hr DV capture @ full quality 720 x 480 is only 13 Gig.

I did a lot of 2 pass VBR back when I was making SVCDs. It was necessary to cram an hr video onto a CDR. I used TMPGEnc for that. Now that I have the DVD-R, I can fit an hr at a full 8000K bitrate. No need for VBR.

Duvie
06-03-2003, 08:20 PM
I capture via firewire as well for my DV stuff, but I often capture things from my sat TV PVR box for achiving on DVD's...I mad emy son Rolie Polie Olie disk containg over 1hr and 38min each. Often then VBR can help by keeping the size down. A 7min episode with a 6000 vbr rate is an average of 210-220mb wil the CBR 6000 bit file is 300+mb. That adds up and really sinks into the number of episodes and minutes I can fit on 1 disk. I have 40 episodes recorded if that gives you a clue. I also looked into it and the quality of the cbr rate was not noticeably better on my screen or TV......


I am surprised it can't capture and encode to mpeg2 on the fly at 6-8mbits without audio synch issues when it is only using 55-60% utilization. Use 100% and get it right....My HDD should be able to capture the data fast enough considering it does fine out of Ulead video studio with the much larger file sizes of my DV camcorder.

oldfart
06-03-2003, 08:29 PM
You can also use MPEG audio in S8. That will save you some space. Its played fine on the set top DVD players I've tried.

Mikki
06-03-2003, 10:31 PM
Nice thread Duvie!! :D

I used Pinnacle's software back when it was still on version 4 I believe, it came with my Studio DC10 Plus. It was buggy back then also, I think I got the Preview window to work once. They were constantly updating it also....just never fixed it.

I use Adobe Premiere now, it came with my Matrox RT2500. The program itself isn't too hard, after skimming thru the manual I was able to jump right in and use it. It's extremely powerful and has nearly every option you'd need. The capture quality with that and the Matrox card is fantastic. Pair Premiere with After Effects and I don't think there's anything you can't do, not to mention that you can download free plug-ins or purchase plug-ins that do all the cool-looking stuff. :)

Anyway, that's what I use...:rolleyes: