Far from bleedin

[Flamer]

Well i picked up a new dell 600m notebook and it seems to be a very nice little rig.

This notebook has that intel cetrino crap and all that means is You have the intel mobile cpu, this one is a 1.3m, the intel wireless lan, and the 855 chipset. I also have the ATI mobility 9000 with 64meg, the rig has 256 meg of pc2100, and of course it has stuff on it that i'll never use.

When i first open the box and booted the computer and all the dell propaganda started come on the screen i started to get ill and had to take action fast so i grabbed my copy of xp pro and did a clean format and install. After i disabled all the stuff in the bios i did not need and installed the needed drivers I stared to feel better about owning a dell.

I ran some benchies and remeber this is a far from performance pc.

3d Mark 2001 se 6779 3dmarks
sandra memory 1950
1m of super pi 1m11sec

I was having a hard time running any type of sandra cpu bench it seemed like i was not able to run at full cpu and kept running bechies at 595mhz.

Some of you may have read that the the intel mobiles were out performing other cpu's in seti and folding @ home well i ran some test using a 3.06 running @ 3.4 and it out folded the 1.3m buy like 50% on the same work unit so the slow 1.3m does hold it own but nothing at all to brag about.

Heat seems to be a issue as i am sure it is with a notebooks and it shut down on me while i was doing some gaming with the computer on my lap it apears my leg was covering the intake for the cpu heatsink, mental note no gaming while computer in lap:)

There is a very cool and usefull software out there for dell notebooks it will let you moniter cpu,gpu and hdd temps and let you set up fan speeds you can get it here (http://www.diefer.de/i8kfan/)

Over all i think i am happy with this rig but i need to do a few things and first will be getting more ram and then a new hdd because this one is slow. I may go ahead and lap the heatsink and apply some AS3,who needs dell's warranty anyway:) And i need to find out what PLL is used so i can use CPUfsb and do some overclocking.

[DAPUNISHER]

Interesting review :) I'm surprised to hear it can have heat issues :confused: being so slow and powering down to such low wattage. It sounds like Dell designed the cooling system poorly. Please post back if you have any luck overclocking as the few Dells I tried on did not support it. I'd get error messages saying it's a false PLL or that the manufacturer didn't implement support for it :rolleyes:

[Duvie]

Sam I did a centrino review 1.5m back awhile ago...I too always saw 600mhz in snadra and the scores didn't look that great...However...

I ran winzip, winrar , autocadd 2002, F&H, and prime95 benches...

IN winrar it was near as fast as my p4 at 2.4...IN autocadd it was more like a 2.2, tjhe rest it seems ed to perform like a 1.5...except prime95 in which it blew chunks. I swear at 3.2ghz I was more then 2x faster....

I can run some test if you want to verify some things...

Mine is a Gateway with 1024mb of ram.....I think I only have the 7500 radeon though....

[Flamer]

DAPUNISHER,

I feel the heat issues where from my leg covering the i take for the cpu. I have played games and have been folding 24/7 and have not seen my temps go above 49 so i think i am ok. I was playing ghost recon and it played very good even with only 256megs of ram, i still need to upgrade soon. Overall i am very pleased with it and when i get the motivation to take it all apart and find the PLL i'll see if cpufsb will work, i'll keep my fingers crossed.

Duvie,

Thanks for you input and i will try prime95 and see how it does and it is good to hear that it performs well winzip,winrar and autocad i always like to hear how a rig will do in real life aplications:)

[Duvie]

Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz
CPU speed: 599.48 MHz
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 32 KB
L2 cache size: 1024 KB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
TLBS: 128
Prime95 version 23.6, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 384K FFT length: 40.938 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 48.760 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 54.923 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 69.371 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 84.524 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 100.607 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 114.640 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 147.922 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 178.626 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 212.139 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 240.527 ms.
[Fri Aug 15 13:01:05 2003]
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Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz
CPU speed: 1498.63 MHz
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 32 KB
L2 cache size: 1024 KB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
TLBS: 128
Prime95 version 23.6, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 384K FFT length: 40.379 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 48.340 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 54.352 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 68.755 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 84.156 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 101.094 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 114.295 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 148.250 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 181.449 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 216.906 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 239.920 ms.

Notice the @nd one it identified my processor right...I think I played around with power schemes to get that...basically turning off the speed stepping which I liken to3rd, 4th, and 5th gears in a race car. It basically only throttles up when the app requires the juice to get it down. this may play havoc if the thread is a low priority as I think maybe it doesn't take what it can...Someone else will have to verify this...

Comparison here is my results underclocking my rig to 1.8ghz 400fsb model with pc2100 ddr...

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
CPU speed: 1800.30 MHz
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 8 KB
L2 cache size: 512 KB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
TLBS: 64
Prime95 version 22.12, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 256K FFT length: 13.434 ms.
Best time for 320K FFT length: 17.772 ms.
Best time for 384K FFT length: 21.519 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 25.587 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 29.002 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 37.599 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 46.189 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 56.202 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 60.977 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 86.729 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 106.302 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 131.494 ms.

older version but you can tell by just looking at the 1792k score....

How about 3.2ghz w/ ver 23.6

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
CPU speed: 3204.34 MHz
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 8 KB
L2 cache size: 512 KB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 128 bytes
TLBS: 64
Prime95 version 23.6, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 384K FFT length: 11.508 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 13.653 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 15.600 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 18.898 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 22.895 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 26.839 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 30.312 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 39.889 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 48.585 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 57.284 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 65.499 ms.

I guess it was closer to 4x...there must be something in prime that is not throttling it up for some reason...I can't imagine the score....


here is a 2100+ oc'd to 2700+ levels...No secret this test favors P4's a bit...PLus I have the ram on my wifes pc running like 308mhz...

AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+
CPU speed: 2043.10 MHz
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE
L1 cache size: 64 KB
L2 cache size: 256 KB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
L1 TLBS: 32
L2 TLBS: 256
Prime95 version 23.6, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 384K FFT length: 32.817 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 38.343 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 40.816 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 53.136 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 63.667 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 75.847 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 85.046 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 115.296 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 134.614 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 169.374 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 193.326 ms.

[Duvie]

Here is some synthetic benches to compare....remember I have 1024mb of ram but only a 7500 radeon

***Pcmark 2002***

CPU = 4878
Memory = 4410
HDD = 428 (yikes!!!) It is a 4200rpm model...

***Sissoft Sandra Max3***

CPU
ALU=4928
FPU=2006/2966

comparable to almost a 2.4ghz in fpu and 2.0ghz for ALU...forget that this thing has 1mb of l2 cache

MM
integer=8430
floating=9897

comparable to a Willamette 256 l2 cache 2.0ghz P4

Mem
1982/1979

right on par with an Intel i855PM computer w/ pc2100

****Super Pi (1.5m)****

1m = 1min 03 sec
2m = 2min 31sec

3.15ghz P4 (old recorded numbers)

1m = 0min 48 sec
2m = 1min 48 sec

I will try to round up my F&h numbers but I think it did better then a normal 1500mhz northwood would have done...

EDit: the super pi number when interpolating my score at 3.06ghz shows super pi scales well to speed and the 1min 03 sec would be in the 2.4ghz range....