View Full Version : My "real" IP address...
joeMan
05-15-2005, 02:31 PM
What is it?
I am trying to ftp connect to another computer on the network right here in my own home but I can't seem to connect. Is 192.168.x.x the real IP address of the machines on my network? 255.255.255.0 I see everywhere, and 192.168.x.x too - whenever I go to other peoples homes or businesses...it makes me wonder what the machines' real address is...:scratch:
I want to learn this so I can xfer some BIG files to my bro because our ISP's won't let us via pop3 email accounts - file size too large.
BTW - I am referring to this (http://www.comclin.net/ftpdoc/) URL for initial instructions on how to do this.
I know some IM prog's have this ability built in to them but I want to get raw knowing how to do it from the cmd prompt in the console :rock: .
Thanks guys - I'm just beginning to learn this stuff so it's baby steps for the joeMan.
k4M4kz1
05-15-2005, 02:39 PM
Open teh command prompt and type: ipconfig /all
do this to both machines and you got what you need...... :cool:
sodface
05-15-2005, 03:49 PM
The 192.168.x.x address is the LAN IP scheme. If you are sharing a broadband connection behind a router, your router's IP will be the default gateway address when you run the ipconfig /all. You'll have to login to your router and get the IP address on the WAN port to get the IP address assigned by the ISP - this will be much different from the 192.168.x.x addresses and will be the address you will need to give to people so they can connect to your ftp server. You'll also have to set up you router to forward outside requests for port 20 service to the internal ip of the machine running the ftp server (192.168.x.x) - most routers by default will just drop these requests.
Ok, I was just re-reading your post and the link you posted. You do have an FTP server running on one of the machines right? You can't connect peer to peer using just FTP. FTP is client/server.
timpanogos
05-15-2005, 05:20 PM
FTP "Server", server being the key word here. I'm not aware of default FTP server software that runs on windows client, i.e. to ftp files from one client machine to another client machine on the same LAN.
FTP (File Transfer Protocol) is based on a well-known socket/port on a middle-tier server which expects/supports the FTP protocol. It is typically used (now-a-days) for anonymous clients (unknown TCP/IP client addresses to the server) to obtain file upload/download from a well known server. For example, a Web Server might open an FTP socket to the world for this.
If you simply want to share files between you and “trusted others” then you might be better off to simply setup network connectivity (via VPN if needed, or simply extensions of your group) and use file sharing which is build into windows.
sodface
05-15-2005, 05:50 PM
Good post timpanogos.
I'm not aware of default FTP server software that runs on windows client
Do you mean installed/enabled by default? If one is using a Pro version of Windows, XP/2k, then going to Add Remove Programs | Add Remove Windows Components and then selecting Internet Information Services (IIS), clicking details and then selecting File Transfer Protocol (FTP) Service will get you a FTP server going. Optionally, you can get rid of the WWW service if it is not required.
I believe the pro versions limit you to 10 concurrent connections, which is usually not a problem for the type of situation joeman describes.
I've used this before and had good success with it. I don't really recommend it though simply for security reasons. It's not a great idea to have servers of any kind running on your home computers unless you know what you are doing and stay on top of them. Having a useful server requires that you open a port to the outside world and as a consequence allows security vulnerabilities or improper setup to be exploited by not so nice people.
timpanogos
05-15-2005, 06:09 PM
wow, thanks sodface ... I have not poked around enough in xp-pro -- smtp, ftp, web server, did not realize they were provided on xp-pro. It appears they have left one tool out which 2k server provides - a software lanalyzer .. seems 2k provides one and from time to time I could sure use a TCP/IP analyzer ... am I just missing it, is there one available on xp-pro?
Thanks
Chad
sodface
05-15-2005, 06:26 PM
wow, thanks sodface ... I have not poked around enough in xp-pro -- smtp, ftp, web server, did not realize they were provided on xp-pro. It appears they have left one tool out which 2k server provides - a software lanalyzer .. seems 2k provides one and from time to time I could sure use a TCP/IP analyzer ... am I just missing it, is there one available on xp-pro?
Thanks
Chad
Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but try:
Start | Run type "perfmon" <enter>
Once the window opens, click the "New Counter Set" button or type ctrl+e
Next hit the "+" button or right-click and choose "Add Counters"
Change the performance object drop-down box to TCP or Network Interface maybe?
Then add the counters you want to monitor.
timpanogos
05-16-2005, 04:06 PM
hmmm, that's a new one on me also, I'll have to play with that one ... but no, the one I've used before is a full blown, tcp/ip lanalyzer - filters, some decode and all
joeMan
05-16-2005, 08:39 PM
Thank you for your responses guys - a lot of that you're slingin around is going way over my head, but I'm comprehending bits here and there. I haven't had time in a couple days to play with this.
Got FSB??
06-20-2005, 07:19 PM
Assuming you and your bro are running some flavor of windows, why not try PCAnywhere? It has a nice file transfer GUI. One of you would setup a "host" connection that would wait for a connection, the other a "remote" to connect to the host. The host sets up a "caller"(within the properties of the host) with a username and password. On the remote side you'll need to know that info to connect. All you need to know as the remote is the IP address of host(if you both are on broadband) or the the phone number to the host.(if both are on dialup)
If the host is on dialup, but the remote is broadband, you can setup the remote for a tcp/ip connection. The host would have to dialup to their ISP, then give the IP address once connected to the person that would be the renmote, then set up the remote with that IP address... :bonk:
joeMan
06-20-2005, 07:44 PM
Thanks Got FSB??. And be careful peeing on Intel products, you could pick up a nasty electrical burn that way :lol:
Kureboy99
06-21-2005, 02:36 PM
just visit: http://www.whatismyip.com/ and it will tell you... :yup:
IP Address's assigned to PC's themselves are designated by IP's starting with "66." etc etc...
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